Are Muslims really trust worthy?

[flew-da-coup]

How about cyanide in their cokes? Now that's something worth a photograph.

[docbyers]

How & why do the Muslims hate us & everyone else so much? Doesn't their God teach them to love?  Apparently not!  Can a good Muslim be a good American?  I sent that question to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.  The following is his reply:
     
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great Satan.     

Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.  Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.
     
Therefore after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans.

Call it what you wish....it's still the truth.

If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.  Pass it on Fellow Americans. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.

[PMEL_DEVIL-DOG]

Most don't believe the Quran, they just like violence. They are wicked people that need to be wiped off the face of the earth. Hey Devil_Dog will you kick one in the nuts for me? I would be greatful if you took pictures of the guy curled up on the floor crying. Thanks.

Yo Coup, I'll do you one better...
I'll kick one in the nuts for ya while eating a ham sandwich. I'll even put a lil bit of that "swine-jelly", you know, that clear stuff that always gathers at the bottom of the spam can, on the toe of my boot so when I kick him in the azz, he'll have bacon on his breath. Can't pray to Allah with a filty mouth!

[flew-da-coup]

Go for it!

[docbyers]

What They Want
by Oliver North

"What do they want?" It's a query we hear a lot these days. By "they," of course, the questioner means the suicide bombers, the masked men in the videotape decapitating a hostage, the goose-stepping, black-clad legions parading with AK-47s. "They" call themselves Hamas, al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, the Muslim Brotherhood, Jamaat-Islamiyah, the Mahdi Army or any of a dozen other names for violent terror groups operating with impunity around the world.

Five years ago next month, "they" were al Qaeda -- thrust onto center stage aboard four aircraft turned into deadly missiles. This past spring, "they" were Hamas terrorists, firing lethal Qassam rockets from Gaza into neighborhoods in southern Israel. This week, it's Hezbollah -- the Iranian-armed and directed movement in Lebanon that ignited the current round of violence in the Middle East.

Some of the "theys" are Sunni Muslim. Others are Shia. In most of the world they are theological adversaries -- with a long sanguinary history of fratricide far bloodier than anything experienced in the Christian schism between Catholics and Protestants. In nearly every case, "they" have foundations in a local grievance, recruit followers by emphasizing perceived wrongs and have charismatic leaders who promote "martyrdom" as a means of making things right.

Regardless of origin -- Sunni or Shia -- "they" share critical common ground. They all despise Judeo-Christian values, institutions and individuals and are committed to "ridding" Islamic lands of Western "occupation." They are all "non-state" entities -- claiming independence of any government -- but rely on support from radical Islamic entities awash in petro-dollars. All carry out attacks with ruthless brutality without regard for their victims. All regard Israel and America as abominations, share the aim of "liberating" Jerusalem and envision a caliphate that extends from Casablanca in the west to Indonesia in the east. This is "what they want."

Unfortunately, in this era of shallow, "sound-bite" journalism and drive-by "action" coverage, these objectives -- routinely specified in the writings, speeches and sermons of radical Islamic political leaders and clerics -- are widely ignored by the masters of our mainstream media or dismissed as the ranting of fanatics with few followers. The consequence is a woefully uninformed public -- and an electorate so ignorant of reality that western political leaders can promote simplistic solutions like this week's calls for an immediate cease-fire, intensive diplomacy and the introduction of an international peacekeeping force leading to a negotiated end to the strife.

This theme, repeated in today's newspapers, magazines, newscasts and political stump speeches, is a minor variation on the kind of thinking that succeeded so brilliantly with Adolf Hitler. He too had written and spoken widely of his aspirations for global domination and ethnic cleansing. Yet, even after he had re-armed and commenced fulfilling his twisted dreams of "purification" and expansion, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain was able to proclaim "peace for our time," after returning from Munich in September 1938. Less than a year later, the Fuhrer plunged the world into a global conflagration. The willful ignorance of weak-willed democratic leaders bent on appeasing evil did not spare their populations then -- nor will it today.

Those leading the call for the Israelis to cease their aggression in Lebanon and start immediate talks leading to a broader Middle East peace -- all part of the lexicon today -- need a healthy dose of reality. There is no "Middle East Peace" to keep.

Here at home, Sen. Richard "Dick" Durbin, D-Ill., Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, and others in the "cut and run from Iraq" crowd in the U.S. Congress, are urging that the United States "reign Israel in" -- force them to "stop the shooting" by cutting off deliveries of fuel, ordnance and spare parts for the U.S.-made weapons and equipment used by the Israel Defense Forces. They claim that doing so will make it possible for the immediate introduction of a U.N.-sponsored peacekeeping force.

Though this course of action would indeed bring about a short-term cessation of hostilities, it is nonsense. U.N. "peacekeepers" have failed miserably at keeping peace, or preventing radical Islamic terrorists from recruiting, training or firing rockets into Israel from U.N.-run refugee camps. Though a strong, well-armed, competently-led multi-national intervention force is going to be essential in Lebanon, deploying such a corps is going to take weeks, not days.

In Washington, London, Paris, Rome and moderate Islamic capitals, there is a desperate need to see the crisis in Lebanon for what it is -- the latest battle in the global war on Islamo-Nazi terror. Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah -- the Iranian-puppet who heads Hezbollah -- has ambitions to become the dominant political force in Lebanon and establish Beirut as another capital in a Shia-dominated caliphate -- but ultimately, he dances to Tehran's tune.

Stopping the Israelis from destroying Hezbollah's military capability will, in the short term, significantly endanger the troops in a multi-national intervention force. The destruction of the U.S. Marine and French paratrooper barracks in Beirut in October 1983 should have taught us that much. Worse, if Hezbollah -- and their Iranian Pasdaran allies -- are allowed to retain their arms and bases in the Biqa' Valley, it will lead to far greater bloodshed for the Israelis, Lebanese and Americans in the future if Iran succeeds in acquiring nuclear weapons.

[Old-Navy]

Every time I went to the Gulf and I was on liberty, I always carried a soft brown bag with me to put all my junk and purchases in.  It had two shoulder straps so that I could carry it on my back.  Bought it in Lynchburg, TN at the Jack Daniel's store.  Wonderful bag it was, and it was greatly admired by the locals in the UAE. They loved touching that bag and telling me how wonderful and soft it was.  On occasion, especially after a few shots, I would tell "select" Arabs that they were fondling the Finest American Pigskin! They would run cursing and spitting. I guess the ones that were never informed are down in Hell or someplace..... hahahahahahahaha

[docbyers]

The Islamic Deception
by Nathan Tabor

Google the phrase "Muslim violence," and more than 29 million entries pop up.  Granted, some of these citations represent violence committed against Muslims, but, unfortunately, quite a few represent violence committed in the name of Islam.

This makes me wonder:  What does Islam really stand for?  I hear a great deal about Muslims who do not believe in violence.  Yet, it seems that this is a troubling form of faith that rewards people for committing acts of violence.

Imagine if Klansman David Duke claimed he was part of the Ku Klux Klan but was not a racist—that he just liked wearing sheets.  Wouldn't that be a little hard to accept as a credible concept?

While it may seem outrageously politically incorrect to do so, a number of individuals are openly questioning whether the Muslim religion is truly a religion of peace.  Some of these individuals are disaffected Muslims who feel as if they were sold a bill of goods by Islamic leaders.  They believe they were betrayed—and they worry that others may be hoodwinked into believing that the Islamic faith is one of peace, love, and harmony.

Islamic regimes have been responsible for major human rights violations, especially against religious minority groups and women.  Even some Muslims openly admit the religion has a history of violence—at least dating back to the 12th century.   While some Muslims have openly called for a peace movement within their religion, the fact of the matter is that, year after year, the news pages are filled with instances of Muslim violence.

Another important thing to keep in mind here is that lying is actually sanctioned within the Islamic religion.  As Islam spreads throughout the West, Americans need to be particularly vigilant, recognizing the fact that Muslim activists may try to deceive us into believing that they do not endorse violence, when their actions say otherwise.   A number of Muslims artfully neglect to mention the more controversial aspects of Islamic writings and teachings.

For instance, the Koran is often quoted selectively to indicate that the religion stands for peace and tolerance.  But after Mohammed migrated to Medina, the Koran became filled with passages showing not only prejudice and intolerance, but the endorsement of violence.

For example, Mohammed, a supposed prophet of peace, commanded his army to kill a Jewish tribe.  Obviously, killing is the most extreme form of violence one can engage in, and it is appalling that a religious leader would sanction what can euphemistically be described as ethnic cleansing.  The Koran contends that the "only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land."  Such lines of text could never be confused with the lyrics to "Let There Be Peace on Earth."   

It's hard to reconcile such writings with the popular image of Islam as a peace-loving religion that is being unfairly attacked.  The fact is, the media are often complicit in this deception.  News reports suggest that violence is perpetrated by extremists or fundamentalists, leading the average Westerner to believe that mainstream Islam does not condone any form of violence. 

Because of Islam's traditional acceptance of lying, it's entirely possible that, when Islamic leaders speak, they are not speaking the unadulterated truth.  In fact, they may say one thing and believe something entirely different.   

In the end, by their fruits you will know them—and, regrettably, the fruits of Islam are often destruction, violence and death.

[flew-da-coup]

But they say Islam means peace?

Well, what do we expect from hypocrites?

[clacoste]

Peace my a$$.  I have a hard time wondering if it is really a religion or a mental disease.....a few daily minutes of CNN about the latest Baghdad bombings in the name of Allah - convinces me of the later.

For light reading about the trendy Western morons who support this abysmal mindset..

Islam's Useful Idiots
August 7th, 2006

Islam enjoys a large and influential ally among the non-Muslims: A new generation of "Useful Idiots," the sort of people Lenin identified living in liberal democracies who furthered the work of communism. This new generation of Useful Idiots also lives in liberal democracies, but serves the cause of Islamofascism—another virulent form of totalitarian ideology.

Useful Idiots are naïve, foolish, ignorant of facts, unrealistically idealistic, dreamers, willfully in denial or deceptive. They hail from the ranks of the chronically unhappy, the anarchists, the aspiring revolutionaries, the neurotics who are at war with life, the disaffected alienated from government, corporations, and just about any and all institutions of society. The Useful Idiot can be a billionaire, a movie star, an academe of renown, a politician, or from any other segment of the population.

Arguably, the most dangerous variant of the Useful Idiot is the "Politically Correct." He is the master practitioner of euphemism, hedging, doubletalk, and outright deception.

The Useful Idiot derives satisfaction from being anti-establishment. He finds perverse gratification in aiding the forces that aim to dismantle an existing order, whatever it may be: an order he neither approves of nor he feels he belongs to.

The Useful Idiot is conflicted and dishonest. He fails to look inside himself and discover the causes of his own problems and unhappiness while he readily enlists himself in causes that validate his distorted perception.

Understandably, it is easier to blame others and the outside world than to examine oneself with an eye to self-discovery and self-improvement. Furthermore, criticizing and complaining—liberal practices of the Useful Idiot—require little talent and energy. The Useful Idiot is a great armchair philosopher and "Monday Morning Quarterback."

The Useful Idiot is not the same as a person who honestly has a different point of view. A society without honest and open differences of views is a dead society. Critical, different and fresh ideas are the life blood of a living society—the very anathema of autocracies where the official position is sacrosanct.

Even a "normal" person spends a great deal more energy aiming to fix things out there than working to overcome his own flaws and shortcomings, or contribute positively to the larger society. People don't like to take stock of what they are doing or not doing that is responsible for the conditions they disapprove.

But the Useful Idiot takes things much farther. The Useful Idiot, among other things, is a master practitioner of scapegoating. He assigns blame to others while absolving himself of responsibility, has a long handy list of candidates for blaming anything and everything, and by living a distorted life, he contributes to the ills of society.

The Useful Idiot may even engage in willful misinformation and deception when it suits him. Terms such as "Political Islam," or "Radical Islam," for instance, are contributions of the Useful Idiot. These terms do not even exist in the native parlance of Islam, simply because they are redundant. Islam, by its very nature and according to its charter—the Quran—is a radical political movement. It is the Useful Idiot who sanitizes Islam and misguides the populace by saying that the "real Islam" constitutes the main body of the religion; and, that this main body is non-political and moderate.

Regrettably, a large segment of the population goes along with these nonsensical euphemisms depicting Islam because it prefers to believe them. It is less threatening to believe that only a hijacked small segment of Islam is radical or politically driven and that the main body of Islam is indeed moderate and non-political.

But Islam is political to the core. In Islam the mosque and state are one and the same—the mosque is the state. This arrangement goes back to the days of Muhammad himself. Islam is also radical in the extreme. Even the "moderate" Islam is radical in its beliefs as well as its deeds. Muslims believe that all non-Muslims, bar none, are hellfire bound and well-deserve being maltreated compared to believers.

No radical barbaric act of depravity is unthinkable for Muslims in dealing with others. They have destroyed precious statues of Buddha, leveled sacred monuments of other religions, and bulldozed the cemeteries of non-Muslims—a few examples of their utter extreme contempt toward others.

Muslims are radical even in their intrafaith dealings. Various sects and sub-sects pronounce other sects and sub-sects as heretics worthy of death; women are treated as chattel, deprived of many rights; hands are chopped for stealing even a loaf of bread; sexual violation is punished by stoning, and much much more. These are standard day-to-day ways of the mainstream "moderate" Muslims living under the stone-age laws of Sharia.

The "moderate" mainstream of Islam has been outright genocidal from inception. Their own historians record that Ali, the first imam of the Shiite and the son-in-law of Muhammad, with the help of another man, beheaded 700 Jewish men in the presence of the Prophet himself. The Prophet of Allah and his disciples took the murdered men's women and children in slavery. Muslims have been, and continue to be, the most vicious and shameless practitioners of slavery. The slave trade, even today, is a thriving business in some Islamic lands where wealthy, perverted sheikhs purchase children of the poor from traffickers for their sadistic gratification.

Muslims are taught deception and lying in the Quran itself—something that Muhammad practiced during his life whenever he found it expedient. Successive Islamic rulers and leaders have done the same. Khomeini, the founder of the 1979 Iranian Revolution, for instance, rallied the people under the banner of democracy. All along his support for democracy was not a commitment of an honest man, but a ruse. As soon as he gathered the reins of power, Khomeini went after the Useful Idiots of his time with vengeance. These best children of Iran, having been thoroughly deceived and used by the crafty phony populist-religionist, had to flee the country to avoid the fate of tens of thousands who were imprisoned or executed by the double-crossing imam.

Almost three decades after the tragic Islamic Revolution of 1979, the suffocating rule of Islam casts its death-bearing pal over Iranians. A proud people with enviable heritage is being systematically purged of its sense of identity and forced to think and behave like the barbaric and intolerant Muslims. Iranians who had always treated women with equality, for instance, have seen them reduced by the stone-age clergy to sub-human status of Islamic teaching. Any attempt by the women of Iran to counter the misogynist rule of Muhammad's mullahs is mercilessly suppressed. Women are beaten, imprisoned, raped and killed just as men are slaughtered without due process or mercy.

The lesson is clear. Beware of the Useful Idiots who live in liberal democracies. Knowingly or unknowingly, they serve as the greatest volunteer and effective soldiers of Islam. They pave the way for the advancement of Islam and they will assuredly be among the very first victims of Islam as soon as it assumes power.

Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist. He maintains a website at AmilImani.com

[flew-da-coup]

When the leaders of Islam in the U.S. state that they are opposed to the terrorism inflicted on the U.S. by Muslims it's a lie. It furthers their cause dictated by their Quran. I don't buy it. I personally believe that it is a fact that all Islamist are dangerous. Look how many that serve in our military have been arrested for spying in the last 5 years. Remember the soldier that threw the grenade in the tent in Kuwait before the invasion. Most of the muslims in our military that have been arrested were chaplins and there staff. Even the muslims that swore to defend our country have their loyality to Islam first. Anyone that says that there are good Muslims are in denial or just plain ignorant.

[dallanta]

You are right, if they follow the Quran and are "good" followers, then they are defintely our enemy.  Democracy is a concept that is wasted upon them as it does not work with their religion.  That is the one major ideal that bush baby and his cronies do not understand.

[docbyers]

The President's Christian beliefs aside, I think he's more interested in freedom than the religion of the Iraqi's or Afghanis...  The problem with democracy there is that if the people get a taste of it, and have the freedom to choose, they sure as hell won't choose what they had before, and the locals in power there sure don't want that to happen.  I had a friend from Jordan, Hisham Obaid, who travelled the world for the large American company he worked for, and was exposed to democracy and different religions.  He forsook his Islamic religion and became a Christian, much to his family's consternation.  Imagine if the Iraqs of the world gained their freedom, and CHOSE what religion they wanted to practice.  Islam may fall from grace and be supplanted, and what's an unemployed iman to do?  In Iran, Khomeini lied to the people, promising democracy, which they voted for, and then, once he was in power, kept the theocracy they have today.

I don't care if they're Islamic, Christian, Hindu, or hari krishnas, but it would be interesting to see what they would choose if given the opportunity...

[flew-da-coup]

The problem is that we can't fight this war the way it needs to be fought because of the political correctness of the Left. Bush needs to ignore these people and start being more aggressive. We didn't know that Muslims were to stupid to want democracy.  But we still have a mess in Iraq with no real solution. If we leave the terrorist will just have another Afganistan to live and train in. The ones that do want democracy will then hate us for leaving. Staying forever is no real solution either. The problem over there is much more complicated for anyone person to resolve. The true problem is Islam and what is the solution to Islam? We are at a stalemate. I would be pissed if Bush had options that were viable and didn't choose those options, but that's not the case. We are now in a Damned if You Do or Damned if You Don't situation. We pass judgement like this would be an easy choice, but it is not. It doesn't matter what our politics are because it has to do with national security. Even Bill Clinton says he wouldn't want to be in Bush's shoes right now.  No one knows the answer right now. I have one but it's unacceptable to most. I am not talking genocide, but something close to it. Islam is our enemy not a race of people. The islamic believes are threatening to us all. What other choice do we have? They will keep trying to kill us until we kill them. Their plans were foiled yesterday in London, but more Muslims will step up to the plate willingly. Basically my logic goes like this: All Muslims believe the Quran, the Quran says to kill the infidal. Hence all Muslims are supportive of killing the infidal. If non- believers are infidals then Muslims believe in killing all non-believers. Now that we know that all Muslims want to kill the infidal then all Muslims are our enemy. All their attacks have been of terrorist nature hence all muslims are terrorist.No More Muslims = No More Terrorist. To put it simply. Kill them all.

[PMEL_DEVIL-DOG]

Well, since I'm back over here, I can see the bullsh*t the government pushes in the media. Whoa is Lebanon...Why won't the Jews leave us alone...blah, blah, blah....

[flew-da-coup]

You should have taken your new gun with you so you could have had some target practice.