Great Site!

yonker08 · 02-25-2011 -- 11:04:24

http://www.obamaclock.org/

Hopefully there is no reset switch

USMCPMEL · 02-28-2011 -- 14:42:20

Thats all you got? Cmon now you can do better than that...

Hawaii596 · 03-01-2011 -- 10:28:42

Not to let my partisan views out of the bag, but I wish there was a countdown clock to count down how long until Obamacare goes away, and retraction of the "stimulus investment packages."

P.S. - Don't forget to start planning World Metrology Day Parties. Maybe someone will invent a new virus that will get into all the test equipment and automatically make it all "exact" for the occasion. Just kidding. I do not condone viruses or spammers.

MRD · 03-01-2011 -- 11:18:13

As someone who was devoutly conservative and had my eyes opened to who really runs the show on both parties, I'd rather err on the side that is more likely to take care of my needs. Big corporations have their lobbiests on both sides and they will survive.

I am the father of a child with special needs, my daughter's disability is a direct result of some mistakes that a military doctor made during her delivery at Fitzsimmons AMC while I was at Lowry. She was designated as an EFMP and I got to know many other families who make the military a career because of the piss poor health care companies on the outside who have their corporate bottom lines and their own corporate death panels. I find it amazing that mandating Health Care Insurance, introduced by the Republicans was a viable alternative to the plan Democrats brought up in the 90s, but now that people with pre-existing conditions are brought into it and mandated coverage it's the most evil plan ever introduced. I voted for Obama and will again, unless someone better comes along. He's not the best, but considering all the options he's done a hell of a lot more for the people than a lot of other politicians will or want to. If anyone wants to rant about jobs, go back to school and get an engineering degree, we have baby boomers retiring left and right and no one to fill them.

jimmyc · 03-01-2011 -- 13:27:22

i find it humerous that people ask for benefits on this site all the time, how much vacation will i get, medical, 401k, all of which cost your future employer, yet mock an attempt at a fix. i have even heard persons on this site advocate a PMEL union, so i then have a hard time understanding the resentment of affordable healthcare. i say this from a position of living my whole adult life on socialized medicine(aka tricare) i will have it the rest of my life until i am transitioned to medicare. it benefits me when i look for jobs because I can save my next employer that cost. if everyone had "transportable" health care, all employers would be on an equal footing. i could give you at least five real life stories of friends of mine or relatives that are stuck in jobs cause they can't leave and risk new insurance not covering them, or our friend that blue cross says is just too fat to insure, (25yrs old). P.S. everyone agrees you are already paying for the other people without health care, even President Bush joked about how you just have to go to the emergency room.

flew-da-coup · 03-01-2011 -- 13:29:43

Quote from: MRD on 03-01-2011 -- 11:18:13
As someone who was devoutly conservative and had my eyes opened to who really runs the show on both parties, I'd rather err on the side that is more likely to take care of my needs. Big corporations have their lobbiests on both sides and they will survive.

I am the father of a child with special needs, my daughter's disability is a direct result of some mistakes that a military doctor made during her delivery at Fitzsimmons AMC while I was at Lowry. She was designated as an EFMP and I got to know many other families who make the military a career because of the piss poor health care companies on the outside who have their corporate bottom lines and their own corporate death panels. I find it amazing that mandating Health Care Insurance, introduced by the Republicans was a viable alternative to the plan Democrats brought up in the 90s, but now that people with pre-existing conditions are brought into it and mandated coverage it's the most evil plan ever introduced. I voted for Obama and will again, unless someone better comes along. He's not the best, but considering all the options he's done a hell of a lot more for the people than a lot of other politicians will or want to. If anyone wants to rant about jobs, go back to school and get an engineering degree, we have baby boomers retiring left and right and no one to fill them.

Let me get this right. You call yourself devoutly conservative, but you voted for a ultra liberal for president? You sir are a liberal and not a conservative.

jimmyc · 03-01-2011 -- 13:33:15

Quote from: flew-da-coup on 03-01-2011 -- 13:29:43
As someone who was devoutly conservative and had my eyes opened to who really runs the show on

Let me get this right. You call yourself devoutly conservative, but you voted for a ultra liberal for president? You sir are a liberal and not a conservative.

i believe he said WAS. (caps added for emphasis, not yelling)

metrologygeek · 03-01-2011 -- 13:48:05

QuoteAs someone who was devoutly conservative and had my eyes opened to who really runs the show on

Let me get this right. You call yourself devoutly conservative, but you voted for a ultra liberal for president? You sir are a liberal and not a conservative.

I'd like to point out that Obama is not ultra liberal at all. Actually he has presented a moderate, middle-of-the-road agenda and has caved to conservatives at every turn. That's why liberals are done defending him (or turning out to vote) and the Dems did so badly in the last cycle. He's alienated the base of his party by not standing up for the values he ran and won on.

MRD · 03-01-2011 -- 14:35:10

Thanks jimmyc, when I was in the military from 92 to 98 I was a staunch Republican. I couldn't stand Clinton, now that I look back, I don't really understand why I didn't like him, I just didn't. I think it was the McCain/Bush primaries that turned my stomach and made me rethink. When those postcards went out in South Carolina stating McCain had a black child who wasn't his, he and his wife had adopted a child from India that bothered me. That was a big low in politics for me. I'm not saying Democrats won't do the same, I just don't see them being as hypocritical. Those that are, punt them to the side.

I think the American public is too polar. They respond to the most divisive ads and the politicians feed into it, it creates lines between everyone, makes us more predicable. I think most Americans are liberal about some issues and conservative about others. They often don't preach to the middle because it takes a lot to get them motivated. People like a line in the sand politician like Bush, because they think he can be predicable but they don't accomplish much. I'm sure Bob Dole would've accomplished a lot more in 4 years than Bush did in 8, but people looked at him as being wishy washy, even though he could broker deals with anyone. Compromisers are looked on as weak and unyeilding politians are reveared. I think Obama sold himself as a unyeilding politician and has become a compromiser.

I think Obama has been pretty liberal, though not as liberal as some have hoped. The repealing of don't ask don't tell took some serious balls and it's been interesting to see someone actually attempt healthcare reform instead of just talking about it.

Politics is an interesting thing to talk about, if it's done with as little emotion as possible, but that's hard for people to do.