Nothing but Job Posts

Started by CalLabSolutions, 06-02-2017 -- 08:48:46

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CalLabSolutions

This is the first time I have logged on to the site and seen nothing but job postings on the home page. 

And it is going to get worse.  I am a young tech in the grand scheme of things.  Most of the people I work with are 5 to 15 years older than me.
Michael L. Schwartz
Automation Engineer
Cal Lab Solutions
  Web -  http://www.callabsolutions.com
Phone - 303.317.6670

briansalomon

Ahh yes... to be on "old codger"...

I posted a note about a technical issue just this week but the job posts appear to have displaced it.....
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USMCPMEL

The fact that a lot of techs are getting out of calibration is a good thing. For those of us that are left it greatly expands our possibilities and hopefully increases our pay. Supply and demand is great when it works in your favor.

silv3rstr3

Quote from: USMCPMEL on 06-05-2017 -- 07:49:26
The fact that a lot of techs are getting out of calibration is a good thing. For those of us that are left it greatly expands our possibilities and hopefully increases our pay. Supply and demand is great when it works in your favor.

I feel the same way.  Unfortunately this career field has been watered down tremendously.  Lots of companies are hiring non qualified people for way less money which hurts people that have actual Metrology training.  On the flip side I've also seen lots of instances where the managers doing the interviews only have business backgrounds and aren't capable of weeding out the fakers.  In bigger companies you're stuck with those individuals because it's extremely difficult to get rid of them once they are hired!!  My hopes are that in the future all the knowledge and skill I've acquired over the years will be more valuable than it is right now.   
"They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that out numbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!!"
-Chesty Puller

griff61

Quote from: silv3rstr3 on 06-05-2017 -- 08:59:47
Lots of companies are hiring non qualified people for way less money which hurts people that have actual Metrology training.  On the flip side I've also seen lots of instances where the managers doing the interviews only have business backgrounds and aren't capable of weeding out the fakers.
I agree, although I would say that both of those things are on the same side of the coin. When I left my last commercial cal place, they replaced me with an 18 year old ITT tech kid...because he was cheap.
They get what they pay for.
I wonder how things ended up shaking out at Tektronix. Las I heard they lowballed everyone and cleaned house of the folks who knew what they were worth.
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USMCPMEL

Lots of companies are hiring non qualified people for way less money which hurts people that have actual Metrology training.  On the flip side I've also seen lots of instances where the managers doing the interviews only have business backgrounds and aren't capable of weeding out the fakers.



I agree, although I would say that both of those things are on the same side of the coin. When I left my last commercial cal place, they replaced me with an 18 year old ITT tech kid...because he was cheap.
They get what they pay for.
I wonder how things ended up shaking out at Tektronix. Las I heard they lowballed everyone and cleaned house of the folks who knew what they were worth.

I actually have quite a few friends on Tektronix and I have never heard that they cleaned house? I actually worked there for a number of years as well and do not remember that happening.

griff61

Quote from: USMCPMEL on 06-05-2017 -- 10:55:07
I actually have quite a few friends on Tektronix and I have never heard that they cleaned house? I actually worked there for a number of years as well and do not remember that happening.
It was what an old fart I used to work with in Phoenix told me long ago. Haven't been there since they were Sypris, started when they were still Bell
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ck454ss

Quote from: griff61 on 06-05-2017 -- 12:01:08
Quote from: USMCPMEL on 06-05-2017 -- 10:55:07
I actually have quite a few friends on Tektronix and I have never heard that they cleaned house? I actually worked there for a number of years as well and do not remember that happening.
It was what an old fart I used to work with in Phoenix told me long ago. Haven't been there since they were Sypris, started when they were still Bell

I must be an old old fart.  I started there when it was Metrum before it was bought out by Bell I left when it became Sypris.

CalLabSolutions

I keep trying to get you older techs to write something down.  Document some trick of technique you have created and used for years in calibration.  Something you can pass on to the next generation of metrologist.

Look at the Cal Lab Magazine's Metrology 101's.  The whole goal behind that was to encapsulate a little bit of knowledge for the next generations.   Because you are correct, the field is getting watered down.  But the techs coming into the field are a green as you and I were 30 years ago.  What they don't have is a stack of coworkers 5, 10, 15, 20 years their senior.  Most companies will have a 15+ year knowledge gap that will be near impossible to fill. 

So I ask each and every one of you.  Write a couple papers before you retire.

Mike
Michael L. Schwartz
Automation Engineer
Cal Lab Solutions
  Web -  http://www.callabsolutions.com
Phone - 303.317.6670

briansalomon

"I ask each and every one of you, write a couple of papers before you retire."

Absolutely spot on. I think about all the senior guys who took the time to show me different parts of all my technical knowledge. Who am I to take that from those guys and refuse to offer to pass it down?
Bring technical excellence with you when you walk in the door every day.

ck454ss

Quote from: briansalomon on 06-07-2017 -- 13:04:54
"I ask each and every one of you, write a couple of papers before you retire."

Absolutely spot on. I think about all the senior guys who took the time to show me different parts of all my technical knowledge. Who am I to take that from those guys and refuse to offer to pass it down?

In my years it I have found that it isn't that Im willing to pass it down but that the younger techs feel the need to not listen as they "Know it all already". 

dminesinger

I've been out of the Army since 78 and in the commercial world ( sort of. DOD contractor a couple of times.) and I'm still learning stuff every day. I figure when I stop learning. I'm dead or in the hospital.
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CalLabSolutions

Quote from: ck454ss on 06-07-2017 -- 13:50:06
Quote from: briansalomon on 06-07-2017 -- 13:04:54
"I ask each and every one of you, write a couple of papers before you retire."

Absolutely spot on. I think about all the senior guys who took the time to show me different parts of all my technical knowledge. Who am I to take that from those guys and refuse to offer to pass it down?

In my years it I have found that it isn't that Im willing to pass it down but that the younger techs feel the need to not listen as they "Know it all already".

We were all young once!  But at some point in our lives, we stopped knowing everything and looking sh!t up.  For me, it was about the time I transitioned from Altavista to Google.

Mike
Michael L. Schwartz
Automation Engineer
Cal Lab Solutions
  Web -  http://www.callabsolutions.com
Phone - 303.317.6670

griff61

Quote from: dminesinger on 06-07-2017 -- 13:55:54
I figure when I stop learning. I'm dead or in the hospital.
You know that we'll be checking out cal stickers on the monitoring equipment in our hospital rooms
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ck454ss

Quote from: griff61 on 06-07-2017 -- 16:40:36
Quote from: dminesinger on 06-07-2017 -- 13:55:54
I figure when I stop learning. I'm dead or in the hospital.
You know that we'll be checking out cal stickers on the monitoring equipment in our hospital rooms

So true...