Anyone Know if a copy of the METRL or even an older edition Is available?

Started by Hawaii596, 03-04-2008 -- 07:49:01

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Hawaii596

03-04-2008 -- 07:49:01
I've been digging everywhere trying to find a copy of the METRL (NA17-35MTL-1) - still looking.  I'm working on cal intervals and that's a great resource for intervals.  I have a couple of editions of MIDAS which also have SOME intervals.
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MIRCS

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03-04-2008 -- 11:14:38
Quote from: Hawaii596 on 03-04-2008 -- 07:49:01
I've been digging everywhere trying to find a copy of the METRL (NA17-35MTL-1) - still looking.  I'm working on cal intervals and that's a great resource for intervals.  I have a couple of editions of MIDAS which also have SOME intervals.

If you have MIDAS then you have all the info from the METRL. MIDAS is produced by NSWC Corona. Just look in the documents for section 2

Hawaii596

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03-04-2008 -- 11:41:31
I'd long since given up on making my MIDAS work properly for this....

I put the CD in drive D: (program is set up for that drive for disk 1), click on PUBLICATION TEX button which brings up selections for Army, Navy, USAF, etc. pubs, and select any of the pubs (including METRL - any of the listed sections), and it won't bring it up.  I've figured there is something wrong with it.  I may try re-installing to see if that fixes the problem.
"I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind."
Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
from lecture to the Institute of Civil Engineers, 3 May 1883

Hawaii596

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03-04-2008 -- 12:16:33
I got my MIDAS working.  The METRL section available only has the generic intervals by description.  I guess I'll have to settle for using intervals listed by model that are imbedded when I look up procedures.
"I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind."
Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
from lecture to the Institute of Civil Engineers, 3 May 1883

scottbp

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03-04-2008 -- 12:41:52
Slightly off topic... What's the difference between MIDAS and GIDEP? Which has the most recent procedures? Are there procedures available on one and not the other? (GIDEP is also run by NSWC Corona, I thought it took the place of MIDAS, since we don't get disks anymore.)
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Hawaii596

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03-04-2008 -- 15:14:36
I don't know the "ACCURATE" answer.  But MIDAS is a subscription service where you receive a set of CD ROMs with the updated revs of cal procedures from AF/USN/Army.  GIDEP is a non-paid subscription to a wide variety of information (PMEL people use mostly cal procedures; but there is a lot of other non-calibration info as well).  GIDEP is considered a cost benefit program for DOD contractors where by sharing a lot of info it has the goal of saving the govt money.  MIDAS I guess is a money making thing.

That's a good question though.  I always wondered what the difference was between  them and why bother having both.
"I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind."
Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
from lecture to the Institute of Civil Engineers, 3 May 1883

jimmyc

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03-07-2008 -- 13:36:38
i am not even sure how long 17-35mtl-1 has been out of date since we were already using metroq (which i'm sure has been replaced) for a couple years before i got out (2002).  i will say i would love to see the 17-35nce-1 republished.  man was that the lazy man (and woman) standards substituter!!

MIRCS

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03-08-2008 -- 05:56:44
Quote from: jimmyc on 03-07-2008 -- 13:36:38
i am not even sure how long 17-35mtl-1 has been out of date since we were already using metroq (which i'm sure has been replaced) for a couple years before i got out (2002).  i will say i would love to see the 17-35nce-1 republished.  man was that the lazy man (and woman) standards substituter!!

METROQ is still going strong.

PMEL_DEVIL-DOG

#8
03-12-2008 -- 15:17:31
Quote from: jimmyc on 03-07-2008 -- 13:36:38
i am not even sure how long 17-35mtl-1 has been out of date since we were already using metroq (which i'm sure has been replaced) for a couple years before i got out (2002).  i will say i would love to see the 17-35nce-1 republished.  man was that the lazy man (and woman) standards substituter!!

METROQ has been replaced by METPRO. I got a the METPRO disks that are 15 months old. How updated do you need them?
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Hawaii596

#9
03-19-2008 -- 11:09:32
I don't need really up-to-date info, just a good, comprehensive resource for cal intervals by mfr/model.  Send me a message if there is something you could send.
"I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meagre and unsatisfactory kind."
Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
from lecture to the Institute of Civil Engineers, 3 May 1883
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