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Title: 3458A Repair
Post by: silv3rstr3 on 03-28-2017 -- 11:49:37
I've been noticing a trend while calibrating 3458A's lately.  They are failing the zero tests and/or the 100mV ranges.  If you exercise the front/rear switch several times it will change the reading.  We ordered a bunch of these 03458-66510 boards and started replacing them with good results.  Has anyone else run into this before? 
Title: Re: 3458A Repair
Post by: Hawaii596 on 03-28-2017 -- 15:51:19
Yes. Two primary culprits. The first one is the molex connections. If you are lucky, that ends up being the problem. In some instruments with front/rear switch issues, I find loose connections to the many molex pins. I gently tighten and re-seat, and that fixes the problem. When that doesn't fix it, unfortunately it ends up being a new switch needed. I have tried unsuccessfully cleaning the switch. They are such low thermal modules that I don't very much trust cleaning or exercising.

The quickie test I do is with the copper wire short attached to both front and back, I test 2W and 4W ohms by switching back and forth. I monitor the stability and repeatability of both of those. If either is flaky (even if still in tolerance), or if the value significantly changes between iterations of front, rear, I consider the switch to be bad.

I have a very weird 3458A issue I might as well bring up here in case someone else has seen it.

I had a 3458A connected with very good low thermal cables to my SR104 10 kOhm resistance standard (in 4W). I ran AUTOCAL ALL, and got about a +30 ppm error, and very stable and consistent.  Let it sit over night, ran AUTOCAL ALL again, and this time got about a -30 ppm error, again, stable and consistent. 

I even exercised the front/rear switch, and no changes. I ended up taking it out of service for the moment, as I don't have time for it right now (doing my annual 10 VDC hot cal with standard from Fluke this week - one of my favorites).

Any way, just in case anyone has seen the weird 3458A symptom...
Title: Re: 3458A Repair
Post by: microwave-kevin on 03-30-2017 -- 23:51:44
Would not worry about it, this is normal on 3458's (HP and Agilent....Keysight I don't know), normal is more than double this.