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Title: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: beilof on 09-14-2011 -- 21:28:44
I was wondering if anyone had a link or documentation for the original PMEL Electronics course. I went through the course in 1983. I have spent most of my career in Phys/Dim and recently got a new job where my primary area is Electronics calibration (K1 & K8). I still have my advanced Phys/Dim course material and the NAV QAL 9, but I do not have any of the original PMEL course documentation. Can anyone help with that or direct me to a place online where I can again learn to understand electronics and read schematics. Thanks
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: MRD on 09-15-2011 -- 00:03:31
Here's the only online I know of, hopefully others know of more

http://www.pmel.org/HandBook/MetrologyHandbook/MetrologyHandbook.pdf (http://www.pmel.org/HandBook/MetrologyHandbook/MetrologyHandbook.pdf)
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: metrologygeek on 09-15-2011 -- 08:21:01
I have all of the original course material circa 1979. It's a huge pile of paper, though, and I don't have the time or resources to scan it all. I think you may want something more contemporary, anyway.  :wink:
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: measure on 09-20-2011 -- 14:58:04
Ha! Ha! I recently came across PMEL training material (hard copy) from 1972! All that vacuum tube theory and use of the K3 Pot (L&N 7553 Universal Potentiometer) should come in quite handy now. (How many know what I'm talking about?)  :wink:
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: metrologygeek on 09-20-2011 -- 16:08:16
[raised hand]
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: calibr8tor on 09-20-2011 -- 18:21:42
Guilty.
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: beilof on 09-25-2011 -- 10:09:50
I just wanted to say thanks for everyone who responded and emailed me. I have received a lot of information I can put to good use. Thanks!
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: CalibratorJ on 09-28-2011 -- 10:31:38
Sold mine for beer money..... how else can an E-3 afford to drink so much???  :wink:
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: USMCPMEL on 09-28-2011 -- 11:30:56
sold them?? Who would buy them??
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: CalibratorJ on 09-29-2011 -- 09:20:45
Some weird guy, was wearing man jammers.... just kidding.

And I really did not sell them. I think my wife threw them out. Things filled up a GP Paper box! The AF sure went through some paper printing those babies.....
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: hoss on 01-24-2016 -- 06:18:13
hi
i need these courses: -spectrum analyser, signal generator and power meter
- solid state and its applications
thank you
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: Mr.Steve on 01-27-2016 -- 01:30:46
You might try finding T.O. 31-1-141-1  if covers, Basic Electronics Technology and Testing Practices – General Testing. Information and Safety Precautions, back in the day it was a good reference material.
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: hoss on 01-27-2016 -- 16:13:48
thank you for the information
can you send me an electronic copy of TO 31-1-141-1, Basic Electronics Technology and Testing Practices – General Testing
Information and Safety Precautions.
this is my email address [email protected]  :-)     
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: hoss on 02-28-2016 -- 04:16:41
hi
please i need PMEL Training Documentation.
( [email protected])
thank you all :-)
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: ad7awjon on 03-10-2016 -- 17:28:12
I was in PMEL in the mid 60's at Castle AFB and Hickam AFB.  I then made the mistake of going into computer programming.  To my ever regret, PMEL was closed so I couldn't get back into it.  I am retired now (mid 70's) but had a very extensive and rewarding career path keeping up with electronics - clinical engineering (BIOMED), ham radio, tube radio restoration, and lots of interesting hobbies,  (I still have my original AFM 101-8).  I would like to review and update my PMEL knowledge for my own sake since I now have the time.  Can anyone direct me to a source for any PMEL study material including even used AFMETCAL course material - unclassified of course?   PS - I do remember the K3 POT, and transporting standard cells in ones lap coming back from NBS (in Boulder) and having to let them settle awhile before using in the voltage calibrator.
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: Hawaii596 on 03-11-2016 -- 08:30:52
Lots of things have changed.  The replacement for the Standard Cells is the Josephson Junction - which is a fascinating piece of equipment.  You might try looking up some white papers on it, if you are curious.  Wish I had some of the PMEL documentation.  I went through PMEL at Lowry AFB in 1983, and don't know where my materials are any more.
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: briansalomon on 03-11-2016 -- 16:19:59
I don't know of any site with the actual PMEL course but a lot of what was in it was material it sounds like you already have. From memory here is what was in my course in 1982:
1- Electron theory (valence bands, hole flow etc)
2- Basic DC circuits
3- Basic AC circuits
4- Tube theory (I was in the last one before they changed over to transistors)
5- Logic circuits
6- Basic audio generator
7- Time/frequency standard
8- Soldering
9- Oscilloscope theory of operation
10- Oscilloscope troubleshooting

I missed some stuff but most of what was taught in the course is commonly available on the web somewhere.

Most of what is actually practiced in a PMEL lab has to be learned in one. The course only prepared us to learn what we would actually use. It was the senior sergeants who passed down what they knew to me. Today I try to share that with the junior members in the commercial lab where I work.

I read the white paper metvet posted a link to and it was interesting. Here is a link to a Transcat white paper on uncertainty ratios.
http://www.transcat.com/media/pdf/TUR.pdf
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: dallanta on 06-28-2016 -- 05:26:31
  It has been a long time since I have been to this group.  I retired completely a while back.  I discovered the PMEL mindset never leaves you though, like when you are trying to measure something with a ruler and you are disgusted with how big the markings are on the ruler, lol.
I had an instructor many moons ago, show us an IC.  Then he said forget it, they will never replace tubes and transistors.
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: Bryan on 06-28-2016 -- 17:18:47
I also went thru Lowry in 1983, most of my course materials (2 ea. 75 lb boxes) ended up in a trash can at the Denver train station when I left town.  Wasn't my plan but Amtrak pretty much sucks.
Title: Re: PMEL Training Documentation
Post by: dminesinger on 06-28-2016 -- 18:20:55
Quote from: dallanta on 06-28-2016 -- 05:26:31
I had an instructor many moons ago, show us an IC.  Then he said forget it, they will never replace tubes and transistors.

And in some high power or audio applications tubes are still the best.