This will probably get deleted again, but trust me you do not want to work for or do business with this company! The owner is nothing less than a crook! None of their standards are calibrated. If you really want to work at a real calibration company aviod this company like the plague. I worked for them long enough to know what goes on there and believe me, it's not real calibration. Just ask any reputable cal company in cities where MPC divisions are located. They undercut EVERYONE! Customers should ask themselves why MPC prices are so cheap. You definitely get what you pay for here.
As far as working here, if you're ex-military, you might get between $19-$22 per hour with very few benefits and very few chances to promote. If you have no military experience, you'll be lucky to get $14-$15 per hour tops. Pay raises are very infrequent and they usually like to use the old line "we're freezing pay raises due to the economy", yet in-spite of the contradiction, they're still opening new divisions in new cities. This company is not worth your time or aggravation.
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~Hoopty
Micro Precision Calibration is commited to quality. We are an ISO 9001 registered and 17025 accredited organization. The result of our last A2LA 17025 and Z540 audit, we received zero nonconformities.
Compensation is based on education and experience and as always raises are based on performance. Medical and Dental benifits after probationary period and 401K available after 1 year.
Our commitment to customer service and quality have ensured us the growth and afforded us the opportunities to expand to new locations. Promotions are available at these new locations for the right individuals.
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Micro Precision Calibration is commited to quality. We are an ISO 9001 registered and 17025 accredited organization. The result of our last A2LA 17025 and Z540 audit, we received zero nonconformities.
Compensation is based on education and experience and as always raises are based on performance. Medical and Dental benifits after probationary period and 401K available after 1 year.
Our commitment to customer service and quality have ensured us the growth and afforded us the opportunities to expand to new locations. Promotions are available at these new locations for the right individuals.
Ahhh. . . plausible deniability I see. . . ok. Hope it works for you.
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TDF,
I'm not sure how that is plausible deniability... But, how about this, instead of bashing the company in a job thread, posting as a guest, why don't you register and start another topic in one of the other areas.
I respect your right to your opinion, but I'm not sure the job listing is the proper area.
Actually, this is what I'm going to do... I am going to split this thread and move it to the General Discussion area. Any more posts in the job listing topic as a guest will be deleted. Please continue all discussion in this thread.
Thanks.
~Hoopty
Thanks Hoopty..
I think people should have to sign there post.
I agree with you 100%
Mike
The rant about Micro-Precision is none-the-less TRUE whether the commenter is registered or not!!
Meh,
Sounds like a pissed off employee to me. Accusations without proof. If I am to believe I need more than someones opinion. I personally havent used there services but I hear this all the time about 1 company or another ESPECIALLY in the Pmel world.
Quote from: TDF link=topic=1945. msg16164#msg16164 date=1298223065
This will probably get deleted again, but trust me you do not want to work for or do business with this company! The owner is nothing less than a crook! None of their standards are calibrated. If you really want to work at a real calibration company aviod this company like the plague. I worked for them long enough to know what goes on there and believe me, it's not real calibration. Just ask any reputable cal company in cities where MPC divisions are located. They undercut EVERYONE! Customers should ask themselves why MPC prices are so cheap. You definitely get what you pay for here.
As far as working here, if you're ex-military, you might get between $19-$22 per hour with very few benefits and very few chances to promote. If you have no military experience, you'll be lucky to get $14-$15 per hour tops. Pay raises are very infrequent and they usually like to use the old line "we're freezing pay raises due to the economy", yet in-spite of the contradiction, they're still opening new divisions in new cities. This company is not worth your time or aggravation.
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If you feel so strongly and you no longer work for them and you obviously are so indignant you would of course never work for them again then why not have the GUTS to just post your true identity instead of hiding behind the wall of an anonymous post,give some proof and back it up. I know if I attacked someone or some company so strongly in a public forum for all to see and I knew what I said to be 100% true then I would not care who knew my real name or worry about the feelings of someone or some company for whom I truly despise. IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOUR A COWARD.
Quote from: pj2067 on 02-28-2011 -- 10:14:12
Quote from: TDF link=topic=1945. msg16164#msg16164 date=1298223065
This will probably get deleted again, but trust me you do not want to work for or do business with this company! The owner is nothing less than a crook! None of their standards are calibrated. If you really want to work at a real calibration company aviod this company like the plague. I worked for them long enough to know what goes on there and believe me, it's not real calibration. Just ask any reputable cal company in cities where MPC divisions are located. They undercut EVERYONE! Customers should ask themselves why MPC prices are so cheap. You definitely get what you pay for here.
As far as working here, if you're ex-military, you might get between $19-$22 per hour with very few benefits and very few chances to promote. If you have no military experience, you'll be lucky to get $14-$15 per hour tops. Pay raises are very infrequent and they usually like to use the old line "we're freezing pay raises due to the economy", yet in-spite of the contradiction, they're still opening new divisions in new cities. This company is not worth your time or aggravation.
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If you feel so strongly and you no longer work for them and you obviously are so indignant you would of course never work for them again then why not have the GUTS to just post your true identity instead of hiding behind the wall of an anonymous post,give some proof and back it up. I know if I attacked someone or some company so strongly in a public forum for all to see and I knew what I said to be 100% true then I would not care who knew my real name or worry about the feelings of someone or some company for whom I truly despise. IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOUR A COWARD.
And by your 1 post one could easily come to the conclusion you work for said comapny and are looking for this individual. Instead of a witch hunt Id be looking at why my employees may think like that instead of calling people cowards. A bit of training or information to your employees can go along way.
There is always more to the story...on both sides.
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Quote from: TDF link=topic=1945. msg16164#msg16164 date=1298223065
This will probably get deleted again, but trust me you do not want to work for or do business with this company! The owner is nothing less than a crook! None of their standards are calibrated. If you really want to work at a real calibration company aviod this company like the plague. I worked for them long enough to know what goes on there and believe me, it's not real calibration. Just ask any reputable cal company in cities where MPC divisions are located. They undercut EVERYONE! Customers should ask themselves why MPC prices are so cheap. You definitely get what you pay for here.
As far as working here, if you're ex-military, you might get between $19-$22 per hour with very few benefits and very few chances to promote. If you have no military experience, you'll be lucky to get $14-$15 per hour tops. Pay raises are very infrequent and they usually like to use the old line "we're freezing pay raises due to the economy", yet in-spite of the contradiction, they're still opening new divisions in new cities. This company is not worth your time or aggravation.
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~Hoopty
If you feel so strongly and you no longer work for them and you obviously are so indignant you would of course never work for them again then why not have the GUTS to just post your true identity instead of hiding behind the wall of an anonymous post,give some proof and back it up. I know if I attacked someone or some company so strongly in a public forum for all to see and I knew what I said to be 100% true then I would not care who knew my real name or worry about the feelings of someone or some company for whom I truly despise. IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOUR A COWARD.
And by your 1 post one could easily come to the conclusion you work for said comapny and are looking for this individual. Instead of a witch hunt Id be looking at why my employees may think like that instead of calling people cowards. A bit of training or information to your employees can go along way.
There is always more to the story. . . on both sides.
I will address your post a section at a time so as to not confuse you. 1. You point to my 1 post,I actually don't come in here a lot but I do occasionally to view things, unlike "some" others here I don't feel the need to reply or bloviate on every post. The number of posts I create is irrelevant.
2. Unlike the original poster I won't hide behind an anonymous name and e-mail and to not have you jump to wrong conclusion I do work for said Company as a Technician (non management-which is not my cup of tea). I am not on a witch hunt, as a technician I have no power to do anything to this person. They will continue to be anonymous and post here,I have no control over that. My point was to say how cowardly it is to act like a baby and whine about pay/compensation and about employment issues here. Take them up with management and if you don't like the response-QUIT. ANYBODY SHOULD QUIT THEIR JOB IF YOU THEY ARE THAT MISERABLE. There are many companies hiring. Also I take offense to their posts as it casts aspersions on me as a tech. I do have integrity and I am Military PMEL trained(Lowery). I don't need training I had the experience when I was hired. I have worked for other companies of which some who post here work for but I have never and never would post trash like that. I moved on as that is what MEN do. I could never say for sure who posted the rant in question but to be honest I have my suspicions and have had them from the very first post but I keep them to myself as they are just suspicions. It amazes me how I am a tech here and make a reasonable wage but the schlepp who posted that garbage is railing about their wage,maybe they needed or need a better work ethic.
Also, I think it's fair to state that different locations of the same company may vary somewhat in their relative compliance to 17025 and/or ability to perform all the steps of a procedure. The location that TDF worked at could conceivably be as bad as he or she states while the location where Mr. Hogan is employed could be an exemplary lab. It all really depends on local management.
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Also, I think it's fair to state that different locations of the same company may vary somewhat in their relative compliance to 17025 and/or ability to perform all the steps of a procedure. The location that TDF worked at could conceivably be as bad as he or she states while the location where Mr. Hogan is employed could be an exemplary lab. It all really depends on local management.
I concur I have worked for the same company for a number of years. I have had 4 managers each one was different. One did not care what you did the other 2 were middle of the road and the 4th guy was gung ho quality.
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Also, I think it's fair to state that different locations of the same company may vary somewhat in their relative compliance to 17025 and/or ability to perform all the steps of a procedure. The location that TDF worked at could conceivably be as bad as he or she states while the location where Mr. Hogan is employed could be an exemplary lab. It all really depends on local management.
You are absolutely correct. The problem is the poser(oops. . . poster) said Cities,implying all are the same. As far as the branch TDF worked at he consistently says in his posts "here", of which usually people use the word here if they are still employed "here". Once again if it is so bad for this person he should quit,move on and try to achieve that elusive Holy Grail of Military/PMEL pay(from his post) which seems to so out of his grasp.
Dude,
You seem to have a lot of anger over this. As you can see from some of my posts in the past, I too have been known to carry a grudge from time to time, but really you have taken this to a whole new level, even making sound personal. Just let it go. If you like the guy or dont like the guy, he is entitled to his opinion and entitled to share it in this forum, as long he is not slanderous and is only expessing his opinion. Isn't that we all served for, so we are all free to express opinions rather than being gunned down in the street for them.
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Dude,
You seem to have a lot of anger over this. As you can see from some of my posts in the past, I too have been known to carry a grudge from time to time, but really you have taken this to a whole new level, even making sound personal. Just let it go. If you like the guy or dont like the guy, he is entitled to his opinion and entitled to share it in this forum, as long he is not slanderous and is only expessing his opinion. Isn't that we all served for, so we are all free to express opinions rather than being gunned down in the street for them.
First of all I have no Anger,I basically posted that the person whom holds these views about where they work should go find employment in a place that makes them happy. I called them a COWARD for not having guts to put their name to "in your words" their OPINION. They obviously ranted about their lack of raise and in my posts I am telling it as fact that I am a technician for the company and I make a good wage and do get raises. If I have a beef with someone I bring it to them not in some anonymous post. As far as personal it really is not personal but professional as this persons "Opinion" insinuates that I Hotstamp equipment as a tech for said company which takes this far beyond opinion and is SLANDEROUS. Have a nice day
LOL,
GUTS, COWARD, MAN and poser. Yes I use those words all the time and in Caps when Im not angry.
By your statements and the other persons statement sounds like a wonderful place to work. :roll:
PJ2067,
"Opinion" does not insinuate you hotstamp! i was really just saying everyone is entitled to their opinion and you shouldn't take it so personal, my mistake if you aren't taking it as personal as it appears.
Again, I may not always agree with peoples opinions, but I will defend to the end their right to have them.
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LOL,
GUTS, COWARD, MAN and poser. Yes I use those words all the time and in Caps when Im not angry.
By your statements and the other persons statement sounds like a wonderful place to work. :roll:
I capped those words to bring attention to them. i am not one of those goobers who think caps lock is yelling as I live in real world not fantasy land. Actually it is a fine place to work. Posting with a fake e-mail address is cowardly, and I stand by my original statement.
I know this guy is just mad about something. You cannot maintain an ISO17025 accreditation without having your standards calibrated. I don't buy that. I know of some of the techs that work for MPC and they are good people with integrity. There are bad apples everywhere and to blame a whole company for some actions of a few is not right. I can also understand Paul's frustration and why he would use uppercase letters to make a point. The original poster may not realize , but attacking a company as a whole is attacking every tech individually. I know people that have worked with Paul and Jason in the past and they say nothing but good things about the both of them. It sounds like to me that it is a good thing that MPC no longer employs the original poster.
Quote from: flew-da-coup on 03-01-2011 -- 14:51:52
I know this guy is just mad about something. You cannot maintain an ISO17025 accreditation without having your standards calibrated. I don't buy that. I know of some of the techs that work for MPC and they are good people with integrity. There are bad apples everywhere and to blame a whole company for some actions of a few is not right. I can also understand Paul's frustration and why he would use uppercase letters to make a point. The original poster may not realize , but attacking a company as a whole is attacking every tech individually. I know people that have worked with Paul and Jason in the past and they say nothing but good things about the both of them. It sounds like to me that it is a good thing that MPC no longer employs the original poster.
Gotta agree with you.....If in fact thing's were that bad what did the individual do to make things better? I did work for a company that employed both Jason and Paul and they are both sound tech's with integrity. I have learned in situations like this the best thing to do is move on. I think that Paul has every right to be angry as the remarks do reflect on him as a technician working for MPC.
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sounds like there is plenty of anger to go around
What happened there that guy made like one comment and disappeared? If you are gonna come on these boards and bad mouth some company at least have the intestinal fortitude to back it up. Everyone company has been a little stingy lately due to the economy. Suck it up and move on.
Maybe the poster is in hiding with the cowardly legislators from Wisconsin who've abandonded their jobs.
My now sainted father, who was very low key, when my sister and I would be visiting for Christmas (and so forth) used to make some snide comment while my sister and I were present. That would get us debating what ever the topic was. He wouldn't say another word; just grin and enjoy the entertainment as my sister and I would debate of what ever topic he had lured us into.
Maybe it was something like that.
we internet nerds call it trolling
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I know this guy is just mad about something. You cannot maintain an ISO17025 accreditation without having your standards calibrated. I don't buy that. I know of some of the techs that work for MPC and they are good people with integrity. There are bad apples everywhere and to blame a whole company for some actions of a few is not right. I can also understand Paul's frustration and why he would use uppercase letters to make a point. The original poster may not realize , but attacking a company as a whole is attacking every tech individually. I know people that have worked with Paul and Jason in the past and they say nothing but good things about the both of them. It sounds like to me that it is a good thing that MPC no longer employs the original poster.
You could not be any more wrong, my friend. Allow me to enlighten you.
1. You cannot maintain an ISO17025 accreditation without having your standards calibrated:
I've seen this done, time and time again, with a company you are personal very familiar with. Have you ever heard of "faxing" over a standard from another lab? Yes, it's when you "borrow" the id number from another lab to place on the cert. Let's just hope, while we're still all making money, that NIST does not decide to make UPS traceable. LMAO.
2. I know of some of the techs that work for MPC and they are good people with integrity. The original poster may not realize , but attacking a company as a whole is attacking every tech individually.
I'm sure that the company has decent people. I was hired, then left, then hired, then left, then hired, then left, 5, . . . . . . yes 5 different companies before I realized that if you're making money doing calibration, then you're doing it wrong. I hear the same stories from many friends who work for many other companies. I'm not saying the whole lot is corrupt, but don't pretend that there is not a major problem with calibration and it is being made a joke, ESPECIALLY in the commercial sector.
Just because someone says something about a company, does not mean they are speaking of every person in that company. Through anger, they may have expressed a fallacy, at best, but don't try to censor people by swaying their intentions.
This is the same argument you hear from when, . . . someone opposes a war, and so Jim Bob who has a nephew in the military takes personal offense, just because he has some tie to the subject, therefore censoring the person who is talking about an ideal, and not the individual soldier. It is this line of thinking that takes the freedom of speech away.
One more thing before you reply, if you even do. Don't think I won't call out particuliar companies, because I will. Be careful in the crafting of your words before you fire back, because, my friend, there is a thick line between slander and fraud.
Also, to piggy back off my own reply,
The OP should have been a bit more tactful in the way he explained his situation, and yes, he should not have placed the whole company on the stand. I have met many who've never had the pleasure of working for a company that does the things in which the OP claimed, and they would see his ranting as just that. . . . ranting.
The truth of the matter is that I did not know how the real world worked, and how far corruption ran through our career field. It is for this reason that I would be more than happy to inform people, through PM of course, which companies they should avoid like the plague. I also have documents as well as past testimonies from past employees to back up my claim, not just from the branches I've worked from, but the other branches as well.
I didn't have anyone to take me under their wing and say, " don't work for this company, because of blah, blah, blah. " Had I known, I could have saved 5 years of my life barely hanging onto what seemed like a failed career. I"m in a great position now, with a great company, so. . .
Feel free to ask me which companies you should avoid. I'll be honest with you but only in PM's, as I wouldn't want my opinions to bring out the people who seem angry at this topic, those of whom, are the ones trying to justify their own actions to help themselves sleep at night. :-D
One more thing, feel free to ask me what airlines you should avoid as well.
Well put and very true no matter how much some folks don't like to hear it.