Out of curiosity(sp) how many audit teams are there? How many sites do they have to audit each year or every two years?
The audit team is coming here in March.
(edit): Is this question off limits in a public forum?
A few buddies of mine say Wright Patterson likes to lateral too much stuff and AFPSL has standards they should give to other bases due to rare use.
Asking how many audit teams there are, and the frequency they audit, really shows your extensive Air Force PMEL background. Why don't you try asking some of your wizard buddies your brilliant questions.
If you haven't been through an MLC audit, here is a tip...you are going to get corn holed. You might as well get the vaseline out and get pre-lubed, because you are going to get it.
You should stick with posting facts instead of your buddies opinions. Your broad generalized statements about WP and the AFPSL are of no value to anyone.
There is one evaluation team that assesses the calibration labs. Total team members is roughly 12. Each evaluation will have a few team members.
Well I don't like the fastcal treatment. I've been through one - sorta. This isn't an official forum and my opinion however serious or jokingly is more than welcome. If it wasn't Jesse would say something or edit it. I know each lab gets audited every two years. Re read the post. But anyhow Some get re-audited what is it 6 months after a failure? I don't believe our "bible" covers all the details of THEIR operation it only is a portion of the material that governs our operation and what we must adhere to.
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Thanks for the answer brhl. Do each of the torque sites get audited on the same basis?
HEY DEERHUNTER.........It is a well known fact that Bionetics Laboratories, especially WP lateral as much as they can to keep their numbers down. that is why they are a BIG joke, and everyone knows it but you! By the way this is a Forum and anyone can ask anything they want......even if you think its dumb. You know kinda like killing Bambi's mama is wrong, but I'm not saying anything to you.
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Not to take this off topic...but I just want to state for the record, that the only content I will edit is e-mail addresses. And when I do, I always note that it was edited and why. Hey, if I can save someone from a little spam, it's the least I can do. Also, I have had to delete a couple of blatant spam postings, which had nothing at all to do with the site. And finally, I might intervene if things got out of hand in a particular thread or with a particular user. It could happen I suppose, but I hope not.
Anyway, I certainly encourage free exchange of information, after all that's really the whole point of this forum!
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from today's in brief i heard 76 evals every two years - well i heard it.
on another note I hear we are off to a good start. Now I don't have e-mail yet so this is UNCONFIRMED: 7 pass 4 in progress of a total 40 for the contractors - know nothing about organic.
So how did the audit go? Did your lab pass? I hope you didn't get cornholed like deerhunter predicted. :-o
Still haven't seen the final report.
You know recommendations, mistakes and what have ye.
But we passed. They are brutal and precise in what they choose. They smell the trends before they happen.
Did you get to take part in the MCA portion of the audit? If you did, how was it?
I was still new to this lab and did not do an audit. I don't think anybody who was there for less than 6 months did. I could be wrong though.
How many audits have you participated in, Flamy? I hope you don't mind my asking, but I was curious. I'm under the impression you haven't experienced very many.
I'm lucky in a way I guess. I've only been through two. I didn't do an item in either. I'm a young chap with lil xp. The job market has sucked cow balls the last few years so I've not been in a military env. I was only in for four years anyhow.
I guess you have conviently good timing.
I've been somewhat lucky during audits. Almost every item I've calibrated for the MCA's has been a bunny. 8-)
Quote from: InLikeFlynn on 07-22-2005 -- 20:51:35
I used to average 3 to 4 audits each time AFMET rolls through. This last time I had one. And he picked a doozy.............11.5 months into a 12 month cal cycle. I wanted to cry when it was out. I felt like I had been ambushed on that. I brought it to his attention and he looked at me like I was on crack. I used to think that if it was more than a third of the way through the cycle you could'nt pull it. But apparently that no longer holds true. ITS ALL FAIR GAME. Watch your backs brothers and sisters.................... :-D
Yeah, sometimes these auditors let their personal agendas or attitudes get in the way of performing their jobs properly. :-P
Back in the old days (1983) I was running the PTFC at F.E. Warren AFB, WY, when our friends from AGMC showed up. Frank Whitt walked up to my time console and turned off all the power... Then he turned to me, smiled, and said "Alright Byers, bring 'er back up!" A little while later all was well, the Austron 1210D-03's were all happy again, I got my nifty TOC on the chart recorder, and Frank headed to the breakroom for a coffee... I'd been in a year, which included time in Basic and nine months in Denver, and had recently graduated from the PTFC school... The lab chief bought me a few beers that evening, so I felt better...
For comparison, AGMC showed up at Ramstein while I was there, and it was a great time. We ran some bunnies, took them to a TFCU site at Rhine Main (more bunnies there), and drank far more beer than I thought possible. A while later the IG team showed up, and that was much less pleasant... We passed the inspection just fine, but those folks had a serious attitude problem, and no sense of humor.
Geez! Tough croud in here. I was just reading the posts from earlier, Deerhunter didn't cut you any slack did he? Is there something else going on there, or just a bad day?
What's an audit consist of these days?
We don't get the same kinds of audits the PMELs do, as we just have ANSI, ISO, ASQ, A2LA, and such to worry about here in the commercial world.
I do remember my first AGMC audit in 1971, though... It was a bit tough, but we passed.