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Title: CBT for MetCal
Post by: dminesinger on 07-07-2008 -- 00:25:09
The Fluke CBT ( Computer Based Training ) for writing MetCal programs. Is it any good.

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Title: Re: CBT for MetCal
Post by: scottbp on 07-07-2008 -- 15:19:10
I've used it before, or at least the CD version... It covers entry of items into MET/TRACK, operation of MET/CAL, and even goes into some basic procedure writing, but it's all pretty generic, designed to work with an un-customized version of MET/CAL. They also have a companion CD on how to make reports with Crystal Reports, which I found useful.

Title: Re: CBT for MetCal
Post by: dminesinger on 07-08-2008 -- 08:15:22
Thanks for the reply. What I 'm looking for is the training for writing procedures in MetCal. We're doing away with the MetTrack and going to TIMMs in the Army system. But, I want to be able to write procedures.

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Title: Re: CBT for MetCal
Post by: scottbp on 07-10-2008 -- 09:40:02
What's TIMMs? Is that an Army specific system, or is it an off-the-shelf tracking software that the Army chose? When I was in the Army we had an Army specific system called Standard Army Maintenance Management System (or SAMMS for short.) This was in the early 90's and everybody in the motorpool, the C&E shop, and the cal lab used it. The thing I remember about it was the computer it ran on: a big, hulking OD green battlefield hardened old DOS based 386 machine, and it ran like a champ even in the hot dusty environment we subjected it to.  :-D  Man, oh, man, I'd like to get ahold of something like that that our on-site department couldn't tear up no matter how hard they tried.
Title: Re: CBT for MetCal
Post by: CalibratorJ on 07-10-2008 -- 15:02:56
TIMMS is written by USATA for the Army TMDE program. It has been around since the mid 90s in one version or another (DOS and Windows versions). As far as I know, cal teams never "officially" ran SAMS, even though there is talk of going to it somewhere in the future, when they can figure out how to unArmyize it......but I've only been doing this for 10 years. I do remember seeing CALMIS boxes though........7 inch floppys......RUN!


Sorry, now back on topic.
Title: Re: CBT for MetCal
Post by: MRD on 07-10-2008 -- 15:08:30
Quote from: CalibratorJ link=topic=1077. msg11312#msg11312 date=1215720176
TIMMS is written by USATA for the Army TMDE program.  It has been around since the mid 90s in one version or another (DOS and Windows versions).  As far as I know, cal teams never "officially" ran SAMS, even though there is talk of going to it somewhere in the future, when they can figure out how to unArmyize it. . . . . . but I've only been doing this for 10 years.  I do remember seeing CALMIS boxes though. . . . . . . . 7 inch floppys. . . . . . RUN!

I'll second CalibratorJ, TIMMS = TMDE integrated materiel management system, I was first trained in it in Germany while supporting the Bosnia/Hungary Mission in '97.   Thankfully replaced the CALMIS = Calibration Management Information System, which has an amazing run.   It was fun seeing how many screens you could be ahead of the display and coming back 10 minutes later to see the screen had just caught up - F10 Go!
Title: Re: CBT for MetCal
Post by: CalibratorJ on 07-10-2008 -- 17:27:43
Heh yeah, TIMMS works the same way. It's great fun once you learn how NOT to crash it repeatedly......and now that they have divorced the Army's automated procedures from it (they were linked together in the WORST marriage EVER) it seems to run a LOT better....