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Offline carriec

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Top talent in calibration
« on: 01-15-2008 -- 18:38:39 »
Hello experienced Calibration people,
I work in permanent placement recruiting and almost all of my employers tell me that they prefer the military trained individual due to the exacting nature of how you operate and accomplish tasks withing your graded metrics.
It is difficult for me to get experienced calibration technicians to the telephone when I call a lab. . . . they are always so busy and most Lab Managers do not want to put their "bread and butter" people on the phone with a recruiter.
I know there still must be a group of the hidden candidates who are confidentially looking to make a change but are too busy to aggressively pursue the job search.   After all, you are more attractive to your next employer working, doing what you do best. . . that is why they desire you on their team.
Are there any avenues that anyone can suggest where I can contact qualified calibration technicians and communicate with them about positions in the hidden job market?
Any referral advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Carrie

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #1 on: 01-15-2008 -- 20:46:05 »
Wow, that's shocking that lab managers won't let you talk to their techs.  How does the conversation go? 

Carrie:  "Hello Mr. Lab Manager.  Is it possible that I could speak to a few of your technicians in order to lure them away to another company"

Lab Manager: "Well of course Carrie.  Would you like to speak to all of my technicians or just the best ones?  They are on the bench now earning profit for this company but nothing would please me more than pulling them off the bench to talk to you about job opportunities elsewhere!!"

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #2 on: 01-15-2008 -- 21:07:06 »
Wow nothing like jumping on the new person posting. If you have a job that you are trying to fill Carrie you can post it here. The people on this website are for the most part kind and considerate.

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #3 on: 01-15-2008 -- 22:15:09 »
I'd suppose posting opeings you are recruiting for here would be a good start. 

It's nice to be wanted.

Not sure what the status of the field is in the military these days, I think the Army just about eliminated the calibration specialist in the 90's.  Any sites directed towards military would probably be a good place as well.

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #4 on: 01-16-2008 -- 10:07:36 »
http://www.tlgworldwide.com/evolve/templates/aboutus.php?id=24

http://www.mrinetwork.com/pcrbin/positions.exe?action=details&p..job_id=205309847382428&keywords=&nonav=1

All too brief of a job description for most here.

First link tells you they recruit for Michigan. I've noticed some other Michigan oppurtunity commercials on TV. I think there is a major effort in some areas to revitalize industry in general.
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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #5 on: 01-16-2008 -- 11:35:55 »
Hello experienced Calibration people,
I work in permanent placement recruiting and almost all of my employers tell me that they prefer the military trained individual due to the exacting nature of how you operate and accomplish tasks withing your graded metrics.
It is difficult for me to get experienced calibration technicians to the telephone when I call a lab. . . . they are always so busy and most Lab Managers do not want to put their "bread and butter" people on the phone with a recruiter.
I know there still must be a group of the hidden candidates who are confidentially looking to make a change but are too busy to aggressively pursue the job search.   After all, you are more attractive to your next employer working, doing what you do best. . . that is why they desire you on their team.
Are there any avenues that anyone can suggest where I can contact qualified calibration technicians and communicate with them about positions in the hidden job market?
Any referral advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Carrie

 I think here is one of the best places to get leads. It is hard to find people in our field for everyone. We do have a lot of job poetings here, but if you are competitive with pay and benifits then you may get a bite from someone here. Good Luck on finding someone.
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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #6 on: 01-16-2008 -- 15:47:15 »

All too brief of a job description for most here.

Carrie-
Welcome to the forum and good luck in your recruitng efforts! I agree with Broken Wings, I would not respond to such a broad posting. That general of a posting tells me that they do not understand (therefore not value) what it is a cal tech does. Also, bachelor degree is the exception, rather than the rule for a calibrator. AA is more typical.

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #7 on: 01-16-2008 -- 16:44:13 »
My point USMC is that it is rather rude to call a place of business blindly fishing for talent to steal away from that place of business.  That actually makes telemarketers look good in comparison.  Anyone is free to speak to any of my employees if they feel they can make them a better offer than I do.  But if they expect me to facilitate that conversation, then I want some of what they are smoking.  Maybe that conversation should be off the clock don't you think???

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #8 on: 01-16-2008 -- 16:47:24 »
I am sorry I took your post from a diferent perspective. I completly agree a manager would be nuts to offer up his employees. I also do believe it to be unprofessional to call up a Calibration lab and try to steal thier employees away.

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #9 on: 01-16-2008 -- 20:24:53 »
Guys,

I think Carrie is really trying to find some military guys that may be on the verge of getting out.   While she would also probably be happy to poach a good tech, and I can't say I would blame anyone for trying to stop that.   As a retired PMEL guy I know when I was supervising/manging AF PMELs if I had a guy getting out in the future and knew he was looking for a job I would certainly point him in the right direction if I could.   We do need to help our own if we can!

Lighten up on her will ya! 

Good Luck Carrie, also try posting jobs at pmel. org
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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #10 on: 01-16-2008 -- 21:57:50 »
Ok, I'm lightening.  Carrie did a perfectly appropriate thing posting here.  This is exactly the right way to do it.   Calling labs trying to poach is the wrong way. 

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #11 on: 01-17-2008 -- 15:36:09 »
unless you have the perfect job that fufills all your needs, (money, flexibility, location,...) then why isn't everyone "looking" for that job that does?  unfortunately Carrie, the people you want are the people employers don't want to lose.  if you want top people, post top jobs.  (not just pay since probably everyone here would take a little less for the job of their dreams)  I work at NASA and it is a great job, but would leave for the right reasons.  there is a reason why all these other techs are looking under the job posting forum page, though most if not all have good jobs.

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #12 on: 01-17-2008 -- 16:49:13 »
First link tells you they recruit for Michigan. I've noticed some other Michigan oppurtunity commercials on TV. I think there is a major effort in some areas to revitalize industry in general.

Posted By BW

i noticed the job posting required a BS from a University...no comments?

University - Bachelor Degree


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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #13 on: 01-17-2008 -- 21:53:18 »
Hi,
I appreciate all of the comments on the forum and I don't poach or steal, I network and ask for reccomendtion, I still believe overall that people really do want to help if they can, especially if someone works for an unstable company.     We do qualify for the next best career to change a candidate's life and we do that for free for the candidate.   Most of my employer's require the Bachelors degree and they all respect the Military training.   
As far as Michigan??? None of my open positons are in Michigan, I place nationwide. 

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Re: Top talent in calibration
« Reply #14 on: 01-18-2008 -- 00:02:39 »
Hi,
I appreciate all of the comments on the forum and I don't poach or steal, I network and ask for reccomendtion, I still believe overall that people really do want to help if they can, especially if someone works for an unstable company.     We do qualify for the next best career to change a candidate's life and we do that for free for the candidate.   Most of my employer's require the Bachelors degree and they all respect the Military training.   
As far as Michigan??? None of my open positons are in Michigan, I place nationwide. 

Well besides the generic listing, could you post specific ones.

As someone said earlier, many will leave for the right job. Location and/or company can make many inquire.

 

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