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Author Topic: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL  (Read 10955 times)

Offline Donaldr1955

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Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« on: 08-12-2010 -- 15:01:00 »

SMR Inc. is looking for skilled personnel for the Warner Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL. This is a newly acquired contract with multiple openings all areas including Physical-Dimensional, Electronics, AC/DC Standards and the Logistics areas.

Physical-Dimensional Calibration Technician
Robins AFB, GA
Type IIA PMEL

JOB SUMMARY:
Robins AFB Precision Measurement Equipment Laboratory (PMEL) is looking for well rounded Physical-Dimensional calibration technicians. Skills in all areas of the lab including the following measurement areas are desired, although any combination will be considered: Rings, Plugs/Pins, Gage Blocks, Surface Plate, Air Flow, Air Velocity, Thermocouples, Temperature, Tensiometers, Torque, Mass, Force, Oil and Air Pressure, and Optics.       

BASIC REQUIREMENTS:
1. Minimum four (4) years experience in Test, Maintenance, and Diagnostic Equipment (TMDE) calibration and repair, preferably in a military calibration lab. Experience to include inspecting, troubleshooting, repairing, overhauling, aligning, calibrating, and certifying TMDE, metrology laboratory working standards and safe work practices/procedures.
2. Completion of the Military DOD metrology training program or similar training.
3. Possess the knowledge required to read and analyze block, schematic, wiring and logic diagrams.
4. Ability to troubleshoot and repair non-functioning TMDE.
5. A plus is having extensive knowledge of Air Force Metrology and Calibration Program requirements including Air Force T.O. 00-20-14 and T.O. 33K-1-100-1.

Electronics Calibration Technician
Robins AFB, GA
Type IIA PMEL

JOB SUMMARY:
Robins AFB Precision Measurement Equipment Laboratory (PMEL) is looking for well-rounded electronics technicians.  The lab currently needs technicians in all areas of the lab including those with strong skills in microwave measurements that would include items such as Microwave Measurement Systems, Frequency/Synthesizer Generators to 50 GHz, Phase Noise, Spectrum Analyzers and Communication Analyzers. We also need technicians with skills in Sound Level Meters and Dosimeters, Fiber Optic Sources and Meters, Vibration Standards, Vibration Pickups and Accelerometers, and TACAN/IFF, AC/DC standards, and DMM. 

BASIC REQUIREMENTS:
1. Minimum four (4) years experience in Test, Maintenance, and Diagnostic Equipment (TMDE) calibration and repair, preferably in a military calibration lab. Experience to include inspecting, troubleshooting, repairing, overhauling, aligning, calibrating, and certifying TMDE, metrology laboratory working standards and safe work practices/procedures.
2. Completion of the Military DOD metrology training program or similar training.
3. Possess the knowledge required to read and analyze block, schematic, wiring and logic diagrams.
4. Ability to troubleshoot and repair non-functioning TMDE.
5. A plus is having extensive knowledge of Air Force Metrology and Calibration Program requirements including Air Force T.O. 00-20-14 and T.O. 33K-1-100-1.
Please send resume to drobertson@smrpcola.com.


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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #1 on: 08-12-2010 -- 15:04:39 »
What is the approximate salary?

Offline Donaldr1955

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #2 on: 08-12-2010 -- 15:09:30 »
CBA wages for technicians ranges for $22.00 to $30.00 per hour plus Health and Welfare.

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #3 on: 08-24-2010 -- 14:49:22 »
Middle Georgia is nice.   ROBINS AFB is nice, the city of Warner Robins is a nice town.

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #4 on: 08-24-2010 -- 19:49:39 »
What this doesn't state, is that if you don't have formal DOD PMEL school or Asso Degree IN Metrology the government won't let them hire you.

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #5 on: 08-24-2010 -- 19:56:42 »
What this doesn't state, is that if you don't have formal DOD PMEL school or Asso Degree IN Metrology the government won't let them hire you.

You mean like Basic Requirement #2 in the job posting?   :-)

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2. Completion of the Military DOD metrology training program or similar training.

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #6 on: 08-24-2010 -- 20:07:18 »
Quote from: MIRCS link=topic=1751. msg15341#msg15341 date=1282679802
Quote from: medic528 link=topic=1751. msg15340#msg15340 date=1282679379
What this doesn't state, is that if you don't have formal DOD PMEL school or Asso Degree IN Metrology the government won't let them hire you. 

You mean like Basic Requirement #2 in the job posting?   :-)

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2.  Completion of the Military DOD metrology training program or similar training.

similar training = degree in metrology ONLY.   A BSEE not good enough, 30 years in PMEL NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #7 on: 08-25-2010 -- 13:41:12 »
Cool! As it should be. If you've worked in PMEL for 30 years then you went to the school. If you didn't go to the school then you may be a calibration tech, but you're certainly not a PMEL tech and you shouldn't be calling yourself one. And since the job announcement clearly states it's at an Air Force PMEL, it should come as no surprise that they want PMEL trained personnel. Most BSEE folks don't even know how to spell metrology.
« Last Edit: 08-25-2010 -- 14:57:37 by metrologygeek »

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #8 on: 08-25-2010 -- 14:34:58 »
I work with several BSEE's.  They dont have a clue about calibration or its principles.  When they have questions they ask me....a lowly PMEL Tech.

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #9 on: 08-25-2010 -- 18:07:20 »
CK, take it from someone who doesn't have a BSEE either; although, I do have a couple of other degrees (wish I had a BSEE).  If you don't go back to school, at the end of the day you will still be a lowly cal tech and those guys will have their BSEE degrees and be getting paid twice as much as you are (even if you know more than they do). 

If you're happy being a cal tech for the rest of your life that's great. If not, you are the only one who can take steps to change that situation.   

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #10 on: 08-26-2010 -- 00:21:17 »
Ok here we go.    Pay attention Now.  
Many years ago there was a Air Force Base named Lowery.    On this base was a building where HUNDREDS of PMEL students graduated each year.    Sadly that school no longer exists.    In its place is a small school at Keesler AFB.    Hardley any students come out of that school.    Mostly students in advanced classes.    What does this have to do with Robins? Here is the plain truth.   
The Armed Forces are NO LONGER THE WORLD SUPPLIER OF PMEL TECHS!!  Hence PMEL techs are as rare as hen's teeth.    There are sadly few colleges that offer Metrology degrees.    To place a restriction like this on any PMEL job is asking for failure.    And consider this, to get a Wage Grade Government Technician job in a PMEL, no such restriction exists.    Experence yes, PMEL school preferred but not required.    It is a great miscarriage to the people losing their jobs at Robins, telling them their decades of service and knowledge mean NOTHING! Telling them their decades of quality calibrations at Robins PMEL are worthless?!?!? 
Has someone provided the contracting offices grossly bad advice or have they been directed to have these contractors fail!? All new PMEL contracts are now "performance based" and only for one year.   Just some food for thought.   Oh, one more point.   Contracts are all SBA set asides.   Effectively preventing the companies most qualified to run calibration labs from bidding.   Great Plan!
Also, before one of you asks, yes I graduated Lowery PMEL and taught there.  AND NO I'm not one of the people losing their jobs.
« Last Edit: 08-26-2010 -- 01:03:04 by medic528 »

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #11 on: 08-26-2010 -- 11:20:23 »
CK, take it from someone who doesn't have a BSEE either; although, I do have a couple of other degrees (wish I had a BSEE).  If you don't go back to school, at the end of the day you will still be a lowly cal tech and those guys will have their BSEE degrees and be getting paid twice as much as you are (even if you know more than they do). 

If you're happy being a cal tech for the rest of your life that's great. If not, you are the only one who can take steps to change that situation.   

Wow what insite you should right a book.  Oh btw I do have my BSEE but prefer being a cal tech.  Not sure where that came from but whatever.

@Medic-Very true.  For me thats why I dont work for any Government PMEL.  I stick with private non-service companies and always keep my resume up-to-date.

Funny thing also has anyone actually read the Job Posting?  Its for a Phys-D tech so a BSEE could be viewed as useless.  A BSME would be a better fit although still not PMEL.
« Last Edit: 08-26-2010 -- 16:25:08 by ck454ss »

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #12 on: 08-27-2010 -- 21:06:12 »
This lab is being set up for failure.   They are letting the techs who would be fired to go to a local tech college to take their Calibration course.   This is being offered to the non PMEL trained techs to keep their jobs. 

The Government clearly has ulterior motives for this lab.   No doubt about it.

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #13 on: 08-27-2010 -- 23:55:59 »
@ck454ss. . . "Lowly calibration tech"? I used to have that opinion about PMEL techs who retire from AD and hire on as civilian PMEL techs for the rest of their lives.  Having been in commercial cal for some time now and seeing how it really is out here, I have nothing but the highest regard for PMEL techs who continue on as such until they retire from the workforce.  I personally know quite a few who make more than E/M engineers.  It's next to impossible to get hired on in most AF labs w/o PMEL experience, so "lowly" is not a term I'd ever used to desribe a cal tech. 

@medic528. . . I have to disagree with you there.  There are still plenty of us to fill the PMEL slots out there.  Most contract labs are small and a lot of them have a low turnover since the pay is over $30 p/h (at quite a few sites).  When or if there is ever a drastic shortage of trained PMEL troops, then they'll have to change their hiring restrictions.  Yes, you are correct, Lowry turned out quite a few more PMEL techs back in the day, but the AF was 30-40% larger back then and despite what you've heard, Keesler turns out a lot more PMEL techs than you think.  There are still plenty of AD labs full of fresh 'pipelinees'. 

Stringent hiring practices are not unique to PMEL.  Although we are a good fit for Biomedical jobs, most of BMET companies or hospitals won't hire us w/o biomed training.  This shouldn't be a suprise

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Re: Openings at Robins AFB Type IIA PMEL
« Reply #14 on: 08-30-2010 -- 17:38:16 »
Really....do I need to add this?..ok

Lowly "Sarcasm" Cal Tech

 

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