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Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« on: 04-06-2006 -- 14:27:41 »
This kills me. A bunch of illegal aliens and pink liberals are going to boycott a Bill in Congress. They are mad because they are refered to as felons and we are trying to kick them out. I guess the truth hurts. I am tired of paying for Rosa's 16 children and for the chicken feed for the chickens all in their yard. What really gets under my skin is when they wave that Mexican flag. If you wave a mexican flag then you're Mexican so get the hell out of my country. Does this bother anyone else? It should. :x

All of them drive around without insurance. They cost our hospitals a bunch of lost revenue which is passed on to the Health Insurance Companies and then to us in our insurance premiums. They are all criminals because they knew they were breaking the law when they swam the Rio Grande, so they don't care about our laws. The crime rate among these people is extremly high. I guess that's because they are ALL CRIMINALS.

I have no problems with people coming to this country. I JUST DON"T LIKE THE ILLEGALS.  :x
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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #1 on: 04-06-2006 -- 15:13:27 »
Sheriffs from counties along the U.S.-Mexico border in Texas say the daily battle with illegal immigrants continues to escalate.

Illegal immigrants trying to get across the border "are getting so bold as to try to run over officers, assaulting officers," said Sheriff Arvin West of Hudspeth County. "They're definitely out gunning us, out manning us and the sophistication that they're using is beyond our capabilities at this point."

West, along with four other sheriffs and a representative of the Texas Border Sheriff's Coalition, came to Washington, D.C., to discuss the situation with Congress today. Rep. Michael McCaul (R.-Tex.), who represents their district, actively participated in the discussions. Following the presentation of a video clip documenting the terror along the border, McCaul said he couldn't believe what he had seen.

"Rocket-propelled grenades, heavy machine gun fire, many bodies lying in the street -- you'd think you're looking at the streets of Baghdad and yet it's right across from our border in Texas," he said. "This bleeds over into our country and that's why it's so critical to secure our border."

Sheriff Rick Flores of Webb County oversees the city of Laredo, which, he says, "is probably the hottest spot in terms of violence."

"These people pretty much have taken control of the border and they're expanding it to New Mexico and Arizona," Flores said. "They want to take control of the whole border, and they pretty much have control right now."

Flores continued: "Since they already have an infrastructure in place, what we’re concerned about is potential terrorists making their way through Mexico. We’ve already got some intelligence that they’re making their way through Mexico, using Mexico as a jump board as they’re making their way into the United States."

Asked by HUMAN EVENTS if any of the men had seen an evidence of al Qaeda-related terrorists entering the U.S. while patrolling the border, Rick Glancey of the Texas Border Sheriff's Coalition said that information must be kept confidential as ongoing investigations are currently taking place.

"But I will say this to you … [earlier] this year, [Robert] Mueller (director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation) made reference to the fact that there were some Iraqis that were intercepted trying to make their way into the United States," Glancey said. "If someone from the federal government in law enforcement is telling you that, then I think all the stories you're hearing from members of Congress, and maybe members of the U.S. Senate, will put you in the right line of what we're having to deal with."

In response to questions about the practicality of a fence, Flores said a physical barrier along the border, such as the one in San Diego, would be helpful only in certain areas of Texas.

"The reason they've got a wall [in California] is that because it's no man's land," he explained. "Well, in Texas it's a little different -- you know the border -- people own land along the border. It's very difficult for you to come in there and say, 'You know what, we're going build a wall,' when these people use the river for irrigation and to water their cattle. They are looking at a virtual wall which is technology and that's worked out really great."

More than anything, the sheriffs would like to see H.R. 4360, the bill passed by the House in December, fully funded.

The bill designates local sheriff's offices as the second line of defense along the border, allowing them to come to the assistance of United States Customs Border Protection (CBP) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement. But it has yet to be approved for funding.

And, according to Flores, that's what they are waiting on.

"We have to improve our resources -- and I'm talking about local law enforcement and that's the reason why we're here is because we have to assist federal agencies and the thing is that local law enforcement has never received any support and the Texas-Mexican border has been neglected for a very long time," he said.
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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #2 on: 04-06-2006 -- 15:31:13 »
Thanks for reinforcing my point. These illegals do not deserve any respect and thet will not get any from me. I don't look at any one of them as equals and if you consider yourself as an equal than your saying your a felon too. This crap has to stop. I say shoot to kill orders on the border are in order.
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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #3 on: 04-06-2006 -- 15:35:18 »
Just look at the crime rates in prodominate Mexican Illegal areas. Oh, their food is good, but their music is stupid.
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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #4 on: 04-06-2006 -- 16:02:17 »
Trust me, I'm not for illegals...but we're touching on a subject that we "white" folks fear most....working for minimum wage.. and I quote "low-paying food processing jobs in Southern and Midwest towns. "  low paying...means minimum wage....how many of YOU folks are out there will work for minimum wage...when welfare pays more?!!?  LMAO!  that's right none of you...so until we fix OUR GOVERNMENT, and bring back STRONG ARM labor unions....sh!t jobs will ALWAYS go to the illegals, 'cause those big companies only want BIG PROFITS, so they can fly thier jets and live on islands....not fair labor practices with fair wages! 

there's some meat...white chicken meat for ya'll to chew on!


CBS) The Census Bureau reports the number of illegal immigrants in this country doubled in the past decade, to more than 8 million. Many were smuggled in and as CBS News Correspondent Bob McNamara reports, one American company is accused of being caught up in the practice.

Tyson Foods Inc., the world's largest poultry processor, has been indicted on charges of conspiracy to smuggling illegal immigrants to work at its U.S. plants as a way to boost profits.

In a 15-page, 36-count federal indictment, the poultry processing giant, one of its vice presidents and five managers are accused of conspiracy to recruit and smuggle illegal immigrants into this country to work at 15 Tyson plants in nine states.

"Myself, I believe they gave it their blessing. (It) saved them money," says Lt. Detective Dave Adams of the Bedford County Sheriff's Department.

Shelbyville, Tenn. police uncovered the case and confiscated dozens of forged IDs from Hispanic workers at the town's Tyson processing plant.

Undercover cameras and informants led them to a local Mexican grocery where police say store owner Amador Anchondo-Rascon was the self-styled "jefe de jefes" - the "boss of the bosses" -- who was allegedly paid to supply hundreds of illegal workers to Tyson for years.

Jailed in Tennessee, Mexican-native Anchando-Rascon is at the center of the biggest immigrant smuggling case ever involving a major American company.

"If you needed false documents to gain employment such as a social security card or resident alien card he was the one who could procure them for you," says Shelbyville Police Officer Bill Logue.

Declining on-camera interviews with CBS News, a Tyson headquarters statement says any violations "were isolated incidents" that "involved only a handful of mid- and lower-level managers and were a direct breach of company policy."

And Bedford County Sheriff Clay Parker warns, "the illegal workers are nationwide, it's not just here."

For years, thousands of illegal immigrants have followed Mexico's "chicken trail," a human smuggling route of desert hikes and long bus rides to the U.S. border.

Though many are caught trying to smuggle into this country, many others reach the low-paying food processing jobs in Southern and Midwest towns.

Now, instead of only rounding up the usual illegal suspects, federal prosecutors and police are going after the companies that supply the jobs.

"That's what this case is about. It's about people that used the unfortunate circumstances of the illegal alien to line their own pockets," says Parker.

Anchando-Rascon may testify against Tyson with the hope of lessening his jail time and to avoid being deported.

And the good life he dreamed of in small-town America is now a nightmare of his own making.

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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #5 on: 04-06-2006 -- 16:16:12 »
Unions are not the answer. When the illegals are gone and Tyson and the others can't find labor at min. wage. They will have to increase salary in order to attract workers otherwise they don't produce. As long as they can get illegals they will never pay more than minimum wage. It's the illegals that are causing this " $hit jobs " to pay minimum wage. So, get rid of the illegals and if the CEO of Tyson and other companies want to continue getting their bonuses they will be forced to increase wages without Labor unions.

Now chew on that whole chicken for a while.

The illegals are the problem. They will accept the wages and Americans won't. Therefore no illegals = wage increases. simple math really
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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #6 on: 04-06-2006 -- 16:40:39 »
Hey...it's better than Nazi Germany...or maybe that's what you're suggesting ...round 'em all up and put them in the tyson camp in mexico...yippy for NAFTA....that why everyone wins...right!?  our government sold us out...and the illegals are here to stay.  AND I'M NOT HAPPY 'BOUT THAT AT ALL!

again I agree with what you're saying about illegals...but the only way to change Gov Regs and "greased" political fingers....kind of like the ones you find at KFC and all those other fat food joints, is change out every failed part....like a piece of egypt equipment coming in for repair...all new when you're done with it.

we're screwed...face it now....no more retirements...we all will be working till we're dead!  Wallyword is where you'll find me...with the illegals bossing me around....'cause eventually they own everything.


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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #7 on: 04-06-2006 -- 16:45:03 »
I think they all just need to be deported and if they want to come back they can legally apply.
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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #8 on: 04-06-2006 -- 17:22:21 »
This country was built by immigrants from day 1, and I would hate to deny any foreign national their chance at the "American Dream."  My Russian neighbors emigrated here, took their classes, and became naturalized American citizens.  They speak English, work hard, pay their taxes, and enjoy their new American lifestyle.  Victor doesn't quite understand all the hoopla around the Superbowl, but he's a staunch Duke college basketball fan, so I think he's adjusted quite nicely...

My family emigrated from Germany 150 years ago, bought land, built a church, learned English, paid their taxes, and obeyed the law.  They grabbed their piece of the American Dream, and passed on their love of America to all the generations since...

There is no unemployment problem in this country, but there are a lot of Americans who are unwilling to work a "menial" job.  Who picks all those apples in Washington?  Who mows the grass in Cincinnati?  Immigrants do, because most Americans, of any color, feel that that work is beneath them.  Most of the immigrants that I have dealt with are here legally, work hard, pay their taxes, and speak decent English.  There are a few bad apples, like there are in any culture...  My sister's roof in Mississippi was replaced by a mostly-Mexican crew, all here legally, who did a fine job at a reasonable price.  Would I work a roofing job down South for $5 or $10 bucks an hour?  No way...

I hear the Democrats and the unions say they want to let all of the aliens in, pay for their schooling and health care, but I completely refute their logic, except for the part where they gain a large bloc of voters to help them get back in power...  I feel the effects of illegal immigration with higher insurance costs, higher medical costs, higher school taxes.  The unions solved some problems 100 years ago, but they've solved damned few since then, and won't solve this one, either...

Come to our country legally, learn the language, work hard, obey the law, pay your taxes, and there is no limit to what you can accomplish.  Come into my country at night with a few pounds of cocaine strapped to your back, and you and your kind will feel the wrath of the most powerful nation on Earth descend on you like white on snow (insert sound of pistol safety clicking here).

Do it right, and we'll help you out.  Do it not, and we'll ship your butt back to Mexico City to make room for a legitimate immigrant who wants to better their lot in life.

I think we have the money, resources, and technology to secure our northern and southern borders and our ports of entry.  Take the illegals out of the equation, and the immigrants who come here legally will fill the void, and work their way up from there.  I started my working career as a busboy making $1.49/hour doing "menial" work.  Now I make $40/hour, the result of hard work and paying my dues, and not any union dues, I might add...  The American Dream is still here, for Americans and immigrants alike.  This country has always existed with the foundation of the hard work of a law-abiding citizen bettering themselves in a capitalist society, and contributing back to the society as a result of their efforts.  Bill Gates realized his American dream (love him or hate him), and he contributes millions of dollars to worthwhile charities to help those not as fortunate as himself.  I don't make the same money as Bill, but I donate my time and money where I can to help people out.  We all do, to one extent or another.  Americans, by and large, are a helpful people, and if you come to this country legally, we'll be happy to help you contribute to our diverse society.  We'll also help you across the Rio Grande river, in a southerly direction, if we catch you swimming the thing heading north...
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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #9 on: 04-07-2006 -- 06:30:41 »
Apr 7, 1:21 AM (ET)
By DAVID ESPO

WASHINGTON (AP) - Putting aside party differences, Senate Republicans and Democrats coalesced Thursday around compromise legislation that holds out the hope of citizenship to many of the estimated 11 million immigrants living in the United States unlawfully.

"We can no longer afford to delay reform," said Republican Sen. John McCain and Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy in a statement that capped weeks of struggle to find common ground.

But delay soon set in as party leaders became embroiled in a procedural dispute that threatened prospects for passage by week's end, if not longer. Democrats blocked votes on Republican amendments, and Republicans responded by accusing Democrats of trying to scuttle a bill they had embraced earlier in the day.

"I believe there are some people who would rather have no bill," said Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., a Cuban-born first-term senator. He declined to name any Democrats by name.

The seesaw nature of events was in keeping with the unpredictable course of the election-year legislation, designed to enhance border security and regulate the flow of future temporary workers as well as affect the lives of illegal immigrants.

President Bush said he was pleased with the announced compromise, and urged the Senate to pass legislation by week's end.

But the emerging compromise drew fire from both ends of the political spectrum. Conservative Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, likened it to an amnesty bill that cleared Congress in 1986, while AFL-CIO President John Sweeney said it threatened to "drive millions of hardworking immigrants further into the shadows of American society, leaving them vulnerable to exploitation."

Still, after days of partisan, election-year rancor, an overnight breakthrough on the future of illegal immigrants propelled the Senate closer to passage of the most sweeping immigration legislation in two decades.

In an indication of the complicated political forces at work, officials of both parties disagreed about which side had blinked. But they agreed that a decision to reduce the number of future temporary workers allowed into the country had broken a deadlock that threatened as late as Wednesday night to scuttle efforts to pass a bill. The change will limit temporary work permits to 325,000 a year, down from 400,000 in earlier versions of the bill.
 
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., characterized the developments as a "huge breakthrough." Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada said he was optimistic about final passage, but cautioned, "We can't declare victory."

Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said: "While it admittedly is not perfect, the choice we have to make is whether it is better than no bill, and the choice is decisive."

Officials described a complex series of provisions:

- Illegal immigrants who have been in the country for at least five years could receive legal status after meeting several conditions, including payment of a $2,000 fines and any back taxes, clearing a background check and learning English. After six more years, they could apply for permanent residency without leaving the United States. They could seek citizenship five years later.

- Illegal immigrants in the country for between two and five years could obtain a temporary work visa after reporting to a border point of entry. Aides referred to this as "touch base and return," since people covered would know in advance they would be readmitted to the United States.
 
- Officials said it could take as long as 13 to 14 years for some illegal immigrants to gain citizenship. It part, that stems from an annual limit of 450,000 on green cards, which confer legal permanent residency and are a precursor to citizenship status.

- Illegal immigrants in the United States for less than two years would be required to leave the country and apply for re-entry alongside anyone else seeking to emigrate.

Separately, the legislation provides a new program for 1.5 million temporary agriculture industry workers over five years.

It also includes provisions for employers to verify the legal status of workers they hire, but it was not clear what sanctions, if any, would apply to violators.

To secure the border, the bill calls for a virtual fence - as opposed to the literal barrier contained in House legislation - consisting of surveillance cameras, sensors and other monitoring equipment along the long, porous border with Mexico.
 
Conservatives unhappy with the deal voiced their concerns to Frist, while Democrats sought assurances that the agreement would not be undercut in any future compromise talks with the House. McCain told reporters that he and other members of the GOP were circulating a letter pledging to vote against any changes demanded by the House that "would destroy this very delicately crafted compromise."

The House has passed legislation limited to border security, but Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., and other leaders have signaled their willingness in recent days to broaden the bill in compromise talks with the House.

The comments sparked a furious counterattack from critics.

"I can just about guarantee you we're not going to get a majority of the House members (to agree) on amnesty to 10 million people," Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., said at a news conference. "I am disappointed that apparently Mr. Frist has caved in to the desires of Democrats, to Kennedy," he added.

Tancredo's remarks underscored the unpredictable political fallout from the issue as Republicans seek legislation to fortify the borders without offending the fast-growing Hispanic voting population. Bush has long argued that a guest worker program is an essential element of border security, but potential challengers for the 2008 GOP nomination have come at the issue from a variety of perspectives.

McCain and Kennedy have worked hard to find common ground, and Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., supported a bipartisan measure that emerged from the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Frist, a potential presidential candidate in 2008, sought to establish more conservative credentials when he initially backed a bill limited to border security, an approach that drew criticism from some members of the rank and file who said he was placing his own ambitions ahead of the party's interest. At the same time, Frist has repeatedly called for a comprehensive bill - adopting Bush's rhetoric - and involved himself in the fitful negotiations over the past several days.
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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #10 on: 04-07-2006 -- 10:47:26 »
Well said Doc.....
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Re: Big Boycott on May 1st by Idiots...
« Reply #11 on: 04-07-2006 -- 18:52:30 »
By the way, speaking of going on strike, this is NOT France!

See below...

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You have two cows.  You go on strike because you want three cows.  You go to lunch and drink wine.  Life is good.
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« Reply #12 on: 04-07-2006 -- 20:10:59 »
  Some really good points here.  Myself. I do not mind immigration at all, it is good.  As long as they move here legally with  the idea of learning the language and supporting the country and becoming American.
  What irritates me about congress is that they do not address a solution to the problem.  They talk about enforcing the entry control points.  HA, Idiots!  That is not the problem, they need to control the rest of the border.  And frankly, if they are armed when they come across the border anywhere, they should be shot on site.
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« Reply #13 on: 04-13-2006 -- 12:01:28 »
Some input from Ann Coulter...

This is the only country on Earth that thinks it's not sporting to consider our own interests in choosing immigrants. Try showing up in any other country on the planet, illiterate and penniless, and announcing: "I've seen pictures of your country and it looks great. I think I'd like to live here! Oh, and by the way, would you mind changing all your government and business phone messages, street signs and ballots into my native language? Thanks!" They would laugh you out of the country.

What seems not to have occurred to the "NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL" crowd is that this is a country, not a public park.

There are more than 6 billion people in the world, many of whom apparently like the idea of living in the wealthiest democracy on Earth. But if the billions of people of the world did live here, it wouldn't be "here" anymore. America is special for a reason that must transcend the right to vote — or everyone would be trying to immigrate to Iraq right now.

America has a seller's market in immigration, but thanks to Teddy Kennedy's 1965 immigration law, we no longer favor skilled workers from developed nations, but instead favor unskilled immigrants from the Third World. Kennedy's bill promptly cut the number of European immigrants in half and increased Third World immigrants to 85 percent of the total.

Not surprisingly, post-1965 immigrants have sharply higher levels of poverty and welfare dependence. Europeans may not seem like ideal new immigrants, but the truth is, if what they want is welfare, they'll stay in France.

It's as if we've got the last Xbox 360s available on Christmas Eve and instead of doubling the price, we're entertaining low-ball offers. Or more accurately, we're paying our customers to take the darn things off our hands — and the customers are still indignant with us.

On CNN's "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on Monday, Dobbs was interviewing Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican-American Political Association about his demand for "full immediate, unconditional legalization for all persons currently in the United States."

Dobbs posed this innocuous question about Lopez's planned boycott, "You're talking about a boycott of all illegal aliens in this country?"

Lopez exploded: "Well, first off, I refute your terminology. You don't say 'kike,' 'patty,' 'WOP,' OK. You don't say "nigger"! ... You're using language that's offensive to me and offensive to my people! ... You pollute the air every day, Dobbs. ... That language is offensive, it's derogatory, it's denigrating, and don't use that terminology to me again, referring to my people!"

Dobbs eventually ended Lopez's Tourette's episode by calmly asking him what he expected the impact of the boycott to be.

An hour later on MSNBC's "Hardball," Dave Rodriguez, of the League of United Latin American Citizens, leapt in to denounce Rep. Tom Tancredo for using the word "amnesty." He said: "There isn't any such thing as amnesty in this law. I don't understand what this debate is. That's your own terminology on it ..."

Bank robbers and drug dealers ought to start claiming that the words "bank robber" and "drug dealer" are akin to the N-word. They could accuse lawmakers of "criminalizing felonies" and claim they don't understand what the word "jailbreak" means.

At the same time on CNN's "The Situation Room," Maria Elena Salinas, an anchor at Univision, was informing Wolf Blitzer that "all Hispanics feel offended by what has been going on, by the rhetoric, the level of the negativity that you hear coming out of Capitol Hill and also on some television stations and by some journalists."

So it's really more like we've got the last Xbox 360s available on Christmas Eve and the customers are not only demanding money to take the hottest sales item off our hands, but are verbally abusing us and acting petulant. I'm offended that you would even think about asking me to pay for the Xbox 360! You say it has a "20 GB detachable hard drive"? Well, would you use the word "kike"?

As hardworking as illegal immigrants are when they come here, they are immediately demagogued by liberals into adopting the victimhood pose so popular on college campuses. Everybody wants to act like his ancestors were brought here on slave ships.

Consider this e-mail from Michele Waslin, La Raza's director of Immigration Policy Research, to her members denouncing Sen. Lamar Alexander's proposal to provide government grants to immigrants who want to learn English and American history and to organizations offering those courses. (I'd be happy with a law that simply trained new immigrants not to be "offended" all the time.)

Even though this potentially meant free money for La Raza, Waslin — of the Guadalajara Waslins — ominously warned that while the amendment "doesn't overtly mention assimilation, it is very strong on the patriotism and traditional American values language in a way which is potentially dangerous to our communities."

Meanwhile, Americans aren't allowed to consider whether millions of immigrants refusing to learn English and American history is "potentially dangerous to our communities." Here, please — we'll pay you, just take the whole Xbox 360 factory.
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« Reply #14 on: 04-13-2006 -- 16:40:33 »
That's a very good description of the situation.  I've only read a little of one of her books, but she is always very concise as far as I can tell.  Good piece.

 

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